Much as I have followed *Chris Smaje* blog with interest over the years I was not going to rush out and read his book. This rebuttal has changed my mind. Maybe there is a debate there worth engaging with? Smaje is, of course, a sociologist and I've tended to put his POV in the same 'solutions' box as Ted Trainer in this country. https://www.greenleft.org.au/glw-authors/ted-trainer Smaje's book,nonetheless, has won a lot of traction in agroecology circles and its presence underscores a gap in the current discourse emanating from the ecosocialism camp (of which I belong). How do you integrate democratic 'small' production (smallholders, cooperatives, peasants, etc) with a large scale planned economy to feed the (mainly non rural) population? That is without being beholden to industrial mono-agriculture... Collectivisation alone just does not cut it. In contrast, there's a very useful perspective summarised by *Rob Wallace* by reviewing research by *Richard Levins:* https://farmingpathogens.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/thats-the-thicke/ I think that nails it.
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