Great quotation. I would like to add that in 7th Century BCE, Uddalaka Aruni had categorically denied the existence of a creator. After him, many materialist schols of thought have emerged. Kanva was the first to say the world is made up of atoms, one centuriy before Leucippus. Buddha also denied the first cause. But we have to have a fresh look at "NOTHING" in the background of latest developments in cosmology. Vijaya Kumar M
On Saturday, December 26, 2020, 11:04:25 PM GMT+5:30, Charles Brown <[email protected]> wrote: Lucretius says that the idea of first cause is idealism ( supernatural power ). The Roman poet and philosopher Lucretiusexpressed this principle in his first book of De Rerum Natura (On the Nature of Things) But by observing Nature and her laws. And this will lay The warp out for us—her first principle: that nothing's brought Forth by any supernatural power out of naught. For certainly all men are in the clutches of a dread— Beholding many things take place in heaven overhead Or here on earth whose causes they can't fathom, they assign The explanation for these happenings to powers divine. Nothing can be made from nothing—once we see that's so, Already we are on the way to what we want to know.[3] He then continues on discussing how matter is required to make matter and that objects cannot spring forth without reasonable cause. For if things were created out of nothing, any breed Could be born from any other; nothing would require a seed. People could pop out of the sea, the scaly tribes arise Out of the earth, and winged birds could hatch right from the skies. Born willy-nilly, every animal, both wild and tame, Would inhabit cultivated land and wilderness the same. The same tree would not always grow the same fruit—what might bear An apple one time, might, the next, produce a quince or pear. Since there would be no generating particles, then neither Would certain things arise from only a certain kind of mother. But since in fact each species rises from specific seeds, Each thing springs from the source that has the matter that it needs, The primary particles, and comes into the boundaries Of light, and that's the reason every thing cannot give rise To every other thing, because there is a separate power In distinct things.[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_comes_from_nothing -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#4882): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/4882 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/79201997/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
