I would emphasize "goal". To the degree society still needs fossil fuels, we have to extract them. I don't think it was a mistake that countries had to use their natural resources as "insurance". Not just that very every single material goal, such as lifting the majority of Venezuelans out of poverty was based on "insurance". I noted, and was attacked, for writing that Venezuelan oil is as bad as Canadian tar sands. There was an ignorant "how dare you!!??!!" replies to me when I wrote the truth. At the same time I defended Venezuela extracting that oil. They really had zero choice in the matter. That is true today as it was 15 years ago. So what one is really talking about the a "transition" away from *most* but not all extraction of natural resources. There will always be, for example, some petroleum based extractions if we want to continue to use some plastics which, in fact one needs for anything that uses electronics to heavy industry. We will never go back to the 19th Century level of technology without a decent in grotesque barbarism. So we need to figure out a balance, and, we need to do start advocating policies that *now* under capitalism that can point in that direction. I would point, for example, to regulations eliminating the use of single use plastic production of bags and bottles. Simple yet profound. A small proof of this is that when California started mandatory 10 cent/25 cent tax payable by the consumer for any plastic bag it was astounding how clean the highways and streets of the state cleaned up. It is still a problem but not like it was before the implementation of the surcharge.
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