JPLO Note: The debate in the JewishForum discussion List of the JewsWhoSpeakOut List moderated by me and Stan Heller has come to an impasse.
The wording of an Open Letter drafted by Stan Heller alone contradicts the Bundist principles of marking the difference between Jewishness and Zionism. This letter; “Take Down the Israel Flag “We Jewish people internationally appeal to Jews and Jewish organizations around the world to remove the Israel flags from communal spaces, whether at Jewish schools, Jewish Federation offices or synagogues. It is clear to us - and much of the world - as the reports of B’Tselem and Human Rights Watch have demonstrated - that the Israeli State is an Apartheid regime and therefore, as <https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html> international law correctly confirms, it is an ongoing crime against humanity. “The government of Israel, since its start, has been determined to totally subjugate or remove the indigenous Palestinians from the land they’ve lived in for centuries. The Jewish supremacist state of Israel is deeply discriminatory and necessarily violent towards Palestinians who naturally resist oppression and expulsion. Israel logically allies itself with Far Right and Anti-Semitic forces even though this endangers Jews worldwide. That may seem astounding, but these noxious alliances have long been the practice of the Zionist organizations that worked to create Israel. The Israel flag has the status of the Confederate flag. We are appalled at the idea that it represents us. It should be taken down.” is essentially Antisemitic, for attacking ‘Jewish Supremacy’, as if Zionism was representative of the Jewish People as a whole. This is of course Zionist doctrine but seems to be adopted by the liberal Marxist tendency to blame Jewish people for the crimes and the Zionist State. As such, the Antisemitism that seeps out and covers itself in Anti-Zionist posters is enabled. The Antisemitic elements and terminology are ignored and tolerated as if such hatred were justified in the single-issue methodology. Among Palestinians this is not the case, despite the possible sectarianism that is common, nonetheless. Palestinian activists denounce Antisemitism and ironically some Jewish activists do not. <https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/05/21/has-stop-palestinian-rights-advocates-condemn-anti-semitic-incidents-us> 'This Has to Stop': Palestinian Rights Advocates Condemn Anti-Semitic Incidents in US | Common Dreams News This is why the Jewish Bundist movement will cease to work with the currents that do not oppose Antisemitism or trivializes such racism as if it were the fault of the Zionists alone, and not the Antisemites themselves. This Zionist Apartheid regime is not the same as that of South Africa-Azania, because the Calvinist Netherlanders who colonized that land were not an oppressed Nation that has been hunted for 2000, by first the Roman Empire and then the Christian Holy Roman Empire. It is not for the sake of the Jewish Bund, or the Jewish People alone that this becomes a crucial issue but also for the sake of the Palestinian People, since a national liberation movement must be internationalist and oppose similar racism amongst other Peoples as well. It has become necessary for the Jewish Bundist perspective to be adopted by the Jewish dissident organizations to overcome the Zionist pretext to holding up the interests of the Jewish People. We know this not to be the case and will confront Zionism with a Jewish face, not that of a negationist. The objections to the text follow in this message after the signature. The Jewish Socialist Bund is forming up now into Chapters that represent, the USA, Canada, Mexico and internationally. You may contact us to make your interest known. abraham Weizfeld PhD [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Dr abraham Weizfeld PhD UQÀM, MA York U., BSc UdeW <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] 514 284 66 42 Montréal 514 235 7187 Mobile +970 (0)569 538 169 Nablus, Palestine The Federation of Palestinian and Hebrew Nations <https://www.academia.edu/38380122/The_Federation_of_Palestinian_and_Hebrew_Nations> https://www.academia.edu/38380122/The_Federation_of_Palestinian_and_Hebrew_Nations <https://www.cambridgescholars.com/product/978-1-5275-1313-6> https://www.cambridgescholars.com/product/978-1-5275-1313-6 Nation, Society and the State : the reconciliation of Palestinian and Jewish Nationhood <http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/7308/1/D2843.pdf> http://www.archipel.uqam.ca/7308/1/D2843.pdf <http://bookstore.authorhouse.com/Products/SKU-000425888/NATION--SOCIETY--AND--THE-STATE.aspx> http://bookstore.authorhouse.com/Products/SKU-000425888/NATION--SOCIETY--AND--THE-STATE.aspx <https://www.academia.edu/40349204/VOLUME_I_-_SECOND_EDITION_THESIS_NATION_SOCIETY_AND_THE_STATE> https://www.academia.edu/40349204/VOLUME_I_-_SECOND_EDITION_THESIS_NATION_SOCIETY_AND_THE_STATE <https://www.academia.edu/40349264/VOLUME_TWO_SECOND_EDITION_THESIS_-_METHODOLOGY_OF_NATIONAL_IDENTITY> https://www.academia.edu/40349264/VOLUME_TWO_SECOND_EDITION_THESIS_-_METHODOLOGY_OF_NATIONAL_IDENTITY <https://independent.academia.edu/AbrahamWeizfeld> https://independent.academia.edu/AbrahamWeizfeld <https://abrahamweizfeld.academia.edu/?prem_fnl_first=true> https://abrahamweizfeld.academia.edu/?prem_fnl_first=true Skype/Yahoo/Twitter/YouTube : eibieman FaceBook : Abraham Weizfeld De : [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> De la part de abraham Weizfeld PhD Envoyé : 23 mai 2021 20:13 Re : Take Down the Israel Flag Even while there have been alterations made in the regular discourse in recognition of the difference between ‘Israel’ and ‘Israeli’, to difference between the population, civil society and the State, this is contradicted by the cliché reference to the ‘Jewish supremacist state of Israel’. This joins both the Zionist and the Antisemites who identify and target the Jewish People as if we were the State, just because the Zionists say so. The same idea is also contained in the phrase “We are appalled at the idea that it represents us” as if all Jewish people are represented by the Zionist State even though a majority live outside the State and do not have a vote. This is a capitulation to the Antisemitic image of Israel being all Jewish people and deserving of the condemnation that Israel merits. In addition the common practice of Christian Antisemitism pointing to one or more Jewish people as exemplaire of the entire People is now again applied to 2021. The origin of the term ‘Jewish Supremacism’ is found in the writings of Gilad Atzmon and cannot be tolerated in any united front. The public miseducation of such damage should not be welcome in any other United Front as well. This imitative by Stan Heller also violates our common roles of founders of the two Lists and the petitions that preceded our common cause. Now that is terminated as I was not consulted in the initial formulation. The exclusion of the Jewish Bund perspective is maintained here by the classical liberal Marxist doctrinaire position. This is not acceptable and my services in providing content to the two Lists will be directed to the Jewish PLO (Jewish People’s Liberation Organization against Zionism and Antisemitism). 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You're, of course, free to circulate your own post, to criticize the post below publicly or just ignore it. Rather than just make a petition of it. I'll ask for signers and for their identification. Posting it here first in case I made any typos. Take Down the Israel Flag We Jewish people internationally appeal to Jews and Jewish organizations around the world to remove the Israel flags from communal spaces, whether at Jewish schools, Jewish Federation offices or synagogues. It is clear to us - and much of the world - as the reports of B’Tselem and Human Rights Watch have demonstrated - that the Israeli State is an Apartheid regime and therefore, as <https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/cspca/cspca.html> international law correctly confirms, it is an ongoing crime against humanity. The government of Israel, since its start, has been determined to totally subjugate or remove the indigenous Palestinians from the land they’ve lived in for centuries. The Jewish supremacist state of Israel is deeply discriminatory and necessarily violent towards Palestinians who naturally resist oppression and expulsion. Israel logically allies itself with Far Right and Anti-Semitic forces even though this endangers Jews worldwide. That may seem astounding, but these noxious alliances have long been the practice of the Zionist organizations that worked to create Israel. The Israel flag has the status of the Confederate flag. We are appalled at the idea that it represents us. It should be taken down. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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