following up on Marv's point about the way Soviet workers were "inducedf"
to increase productivity ---- all planned goals were set in QUANTITIES not
"values" as under capitalism.

THis, unfortunately, led to irrationalities --- for example, if the nail
quota was in NUMBERS of nails, they were made with very little weight and
therefore prone to not being strong enough --- if the quotas were set in
WEIGHT, the nails would only be large size which decreased the flexibility
when nails became inputs --

or think of the taxi driver in Moscow who had a quota of hours ---- asd the
end of the period approached, his version of "storming" was to turn on the
meter and drive around making believe he were collecting fares ---- then
put in HIS OWN money to cover the extra so he could OVERFULFILL his quota
---

With 20-20 hindsight, it was clear that planning by quantity produced
significant irrationalities ---

(I still believe that worker-controlled enterprises and democratically
arrived at goals might have been able to overcome these irrationalities but
the Central Panning system created in 1928 was totally incapable of that
--- it worked fine when they were producing steel or mining coal and that
(thankfully) left them with enough industrial capacity to defeat Hitler ---
but when they tried to become a consumer society (Khruschev's dream of
"winning" the "peaceful competition with capitalism" (the title of his
book!) proved impossible)

On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 6:45 PM Marv Gandall <[email protected]> wrote:

> . Whether these offset the "labour disciplinary measures" introduced in
> the 30's to forcefully raise labour productivity in the interest of rapid
>  industrialization is another matter. As was the predominantly piecework
> pay system aimed at speed-up which we roundly condemn here. I doubt most
> Soviet workers were as committed as Stakhanov to mining coal well above
> their quota in the interests of building the socialist economy.
> _._,_._,_
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>
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