Marv's comment may be true in general, but sometimes the actions of liberal capitalist governments antagonise the working class to such an extent that workers either don't vote at all or vote for right wing parties. For example, some sections of the working class that voted for Obama in 2008 swung to Trump in 2016, due to Obama's failure to protect workers from the effects of the economic crisis (mortgage foreclosures etc).
Today Biden has antagonised supporters of Palestine, and many of them will not vote for him again. In situations like this we need to put forward an alternative. Jill Stein seems like the best candidate in the current presidential election. Chris Slee ________________________________ From: marxmail@groups.io <marxmail@groups.io> on behalf of Marv Gandall <marvga...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2024 4:09 AM To: marxmail@groups.io <marxmail@groups.io> Subject: Re: [marxmail] On Tuesday, Biden demonized the protesters as hate groups. On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 09:24 PM, John Edmundson wrote: We've had 100 years of failure by these parties. Yet people still want us to support them. Why? The short answer is because the working class masses still prefer them to the right-wing parties which they view as the greater threat to the social and political gains acquired through struggle over generations. They identify the Democratic, Labour and other left-centre parties with the advent of the welfare state and the conservative parties with having resisted it and wanting it dismantled. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30219): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/30219 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/105891162/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-