Marv's comment may be true in general, but sometimes the actions of liberal 
capitalist governments antagonise the working class to such an extent that 
workers either don't vote at all or vote for right wing parties.  For example, 
some sections of the working class that voted for Obama in 2008 swung to Trump 
in 2016, due to Obama's failure to protect workers from the effects of the 
economic crisis (mortgage foreclosures etc).

Today Biden has antagonised supporters of Palestine, and many of them will not 
vote for him again.

In situations like this we need to put forward an alternative.  Jill Stein 
seems like the best candidate in the current presidential election.

Chris Slee

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On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 09:24 PM, John Edmundson wrote:
We've had 100 years of failure by these parties. Yet people still want us to 
support them. Why?
The short answer is because the working class masses still prefer them to the 
right-wing parties which they view as the greater threat to the social and 
political gains acquired through struggle over generations. They identify the 
Democratic, Labour and other left-centre parties with the advent of the welfare 
state and the conservative parties with having resisted it and wanting it 
dismantled.




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