China's rate of development since 1980 (44 years ago) is not significantly 
higher than Japan after World War Two, for example. The population and hence 
the scope are bigger, which may be what misleads Marv about the rate. Worse 
than Japan, income inequality is more polarized, and several hundred million 
people remain wage slaves to long hours and very low pay.

China today is the first capitalist country to carry out most of its 
industrialization after a socialist period. Yes, that affects the form of 
Chinese capitalism. It is more vicious and more repressive than classic 
bourgeois democracies. Marv calls that "more advanced" - sick.

As for "the Marxist claim dating back to the mid-19th century that capitalism 
has exhausted its historic potential," it is about capitalism as a whole and at 
the forefront of productive development. Which Marxist said countries with a 
huge (Russia) or dominant (China) pre-capitalist sector could not run rapidly 
through the industrial phase already traversed by England, the U.S., Germany, 
Japan, etc.? Not Marx. Not Lenin.

(By the way, my first paragraph above is a copy of my remark in a thread last 
month in which Marv rolled out much the same line. He just repeats it a few 
weeks later.)


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