John, Somehow you omitted "We should vote for her because the alternative is far worse".
I think it is clear no leftist is voting for Harris because of what she represents and we think that leftists should vote in such a way that Trump should not be elected because his election represents a big danger for the US society and world (climate change) If you think that the election of Trump is not a problem for you and prefer him to Harris, that you prefer a road to fascism. I will quote a few others that I agree and you already know all that but that should be repeated. https://oaklandsocialist.com/2023/09/26/review-of-forum-on-socialist-orientation-towards-2024-elections/ " *Trump’s presidency was qualitatively different from any previous Republican, and today he is a real threat to democratic rights in America in a way that no Republican candidate has been before. The differences between the Trump candidacy and Democratic Party candidates are fundamental. This marks a real change and it is why socialists’ approach to this election must be different from what it was in the past – because the situation is different*. " and I highlighted a part that to me is more relevant to describe you rather than accusing you as "Ultra left sectarian". https://oaklandsocialist.com/2024/08/08/video-debate-should-socialists-support-voting-for-democrats-in-2024-or-ever/ " If Trump and Vance are no different from previous Republicans then there is no reason to do anything different from the past. No one but the LEFT thinks this way. *This kind of thinking is possible only if you ignore facts, consider Marxism a kind of evangelical religion where nothing is ever questioned or you exist in an echo chamber. This is why for the most part it is completely marginalized and virtually unknown to working class people. It will become completely irrelevant if it continues on this path. But maybe that is a necessary step towards building a new, healthier, independent democratic socialist movement.* Most of the left has been absorbed by campism and the rest of it is attached to the Democratic Party. The sooner the campist left dies off the better. " -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#32606): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/32606 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/108689289/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
