Music, with its internal rules, is NOT a language. Language is not just a set of symbols, nor is it only communication. After the structuralist linguistics, we know that language is characterized by a double articulation. Structuralism is generally wrong, but not always or all along.

Jay's objection is not valid.

JA

Στις 21/10/24 22:10, ο/η Charlie via groups.io έγραψε:
Jay's explication of jazz is helpful. The common thing here between language (in a fairly strict sense: Chinese, English, Dine, etc.) and jazz harmony is that both are sets of symbols with relations among the symbols in the set.

So where in the brain do the manipulations of symbols according to their relations occur? Is there a common core area for language, jazz harmonics, arithmetic manipulations, etc.?

This stuff bears on the difference between humans and other animals, too. Isn't the evidence so far that humans manipulate symbols, which in turn guide action, at a level of complexity that other animals do not?

This way of putting the matter is better than that of asking whether animals specifically do or do not need language to think.




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