China is not a capitalist system? Expropriates capital through out the world has a class system with billionaires anti independent unions and workers.
On Monday, November 4, 2024, Marv Gandall via groups.io <marvgand2= gmail....@groups.io> wrote: > [Edited Message Follows] > [Reason: Corrected to clarify that Bolivarian Venezuela never expropriated > its capitalist class. China and Cuba did, and each has not yet restored a > capitalist system. None of the three regimes are partial to capitalism. ] > What you're picking up from me is that I believe the central issue which > Bellamy Foster is addressing has been debated many many times on the list. > It's the split on the Marxist left concerning the terms "imperialist" and > "sub-imperialist" or whether, as Arrighi, H & N, Harvey, Robinson, and > others contend, the concept has outlived its usefulness in a world > dominated by multinationals. Of course this theoretical question has > crucial political implications. > > The reason I anticipated it would not be favourably received is because > most here subscribe to the inter-imperialist thesis, with some preoccupied > to the point of obsession with so-called Chinese and Russian "imperialism" > than with US imperialism. That is not JBF's position nor Michael Roberts' > nor mine, as my intro to the essay made clear. I think Bellamy Foster is > less critical of the regimes in his stout and necessary defence of > Venezuela, Cuba, and China than I and probably Roberts would be, but that > is a secondary matter since none of us, unlike on the list, would describe > any of them as partial to "capitalism". > > But, as I said, we've endlessly debated this issue and I for one am > somewhat tired of it and would live with our differences. If we were poised > to take power, these theoretical and strategic questions would warrant the > heat expended on them, but we're a far way removed from that. > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#33330): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/33330 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/109354806/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
