Russian missile and drone attacks are continuing across Ukraine as the country 
already faces a cold, dark winter after Russia’s strikes destroyed about half 
of the country’s energy infrastructure. This comes as Russia and Ukraine 
completed a prisoner swap, repatriating more than 300 prisoners of war in a 
deal brokered by the United Arab Emirates ahead of the new year. The Biden 
administration, meanwhile, has approved billions more in military and economic 
assistance to Ukraine before President-elect Donald Trump returns to office 
with a pledge to curtail aid and end the war. Since Russia’s invasion nearly 
three years ago, Congress has approved $175 billion in total assistance to 
Ukraine. “Putin doesn’t want peace,” says Oleksandra Matviichuk, a leading 
Ukrainian human rights lawyer, who says Russia’s goal is to restore its empire 
by force. “Russian occupation means torture, rapes, enforced disappearances, 
denial of your own identity, forcible adoption of your children, filtration 
camps and mass graves,” she says.

Ukraine Faces a “Cold, Dark Winter” as Russia Strikes Energy Infrastructure; 
Biden to Send New Aid | Democracy Now!

Ukraine faces a cold, dark winter after Russia’s energy strikes
NERMEEN SHAIKH: We begin today’s show in Ukraine, where Russia has launched 
multiple missile and drone attacks today on the capital Kyiv and other regions. 
Ukraine is already facing a cold, dark winter after Russian strikes destroyed 
about half of the country’s energy infrastructure.

On Monday, President Biden said the United States will send nearly $2.5 billion 
more in weapons to Ukraine before President-elect Donald Trump returns to 
office in a few weeks. The package includes air defense missiles; munitions for 
rocket and artillery systems; anti-tank weapons and more. Separately, Treasury 
Secretary Janet Yellen announced $3.4 billion in economic assistance to 
Ukraine. Since Russia’s invasion nearly three years ago, Congress has approved 
$175 billion in total assistance to Ukraine. Biden is rushing aid before 
President-elect Trump takes office in three weeks; on the campaign trail, Trump 
expressed skepticism about sending more aid and repeatedly pledged to end the 
war in his first 24 hours in office.

This comes as Russia and Ukraine have completed a prisoner swap, repatriating 
more than 300 prisoners of war in a deal brokered by the United Arab Emirates 
ahead of the new year. On the Ukrainian side, the swap included some prisoners 
who had been held for over two years, including soldiers who defended Snake 
Island in the Black Sea and others who held out for months defending the 
southern city of Mariupol from Russia’s invasion.


SERHII: [translated] My son is 5 years old now. The last time I saw him, he was 
2 years old. That’s why my son probably didn’t recognize me. I used to have a 
beard and hair. He was 2 years old. I lost 44 pounds.


NERMEEN SHAIKH: Meanwhile, today marks 25 years since Russian President 
Vladimir Putin became president of Russia.

For more, we’re joined in Kyiv by Oleksandra Matviichuk, leading Ukrainian 
human rights lawyer. She’s worked with the Tribunal for Putin initiative to 
document over 80,000 war crimes committed by Russia since its full-scale 
invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. She leads the human rights organization 
Center for Civil Liberties, which was awarded the 2022 Nobel Peace Prize. In 
the same year, she received the Right Livelihood Award. Her recent piece for 
The Hill is headlined “Ukraine faces a cold, dark winter after Russia’s energy 
strikes.”

Oleksandra, welcome back to Democracy Now! We’re speaking to you in Kyiv. Could 
you describe what the situation there is on the ground as the capital city of 
Ukraine comes under attack from Russia?

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: This night, we had the next rockets and drone attack to 
Kyiv and to other cities and settlements in the country. And this has become 
quite regular phenomena. Russia wants to destroy completely Ukraine energy 
system and to make millions of Ukrainians to face the winter without heating, 
electricity, water, light and internet connection. But what I want to say, that 
due to the work of ordinary people who repair the civil infrastructure, we are 
able to meet this New Year Eve with light. And this is a bright symbol of 
Ukrainian resilience.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And could you explain, Oleksandra? Your organization has been 
documenting war crimes. You’re working with this tribunal on Putin to document 
war crimes, 80,000. I mean, if you could just give a sense of what kinds of 
crimes have been occurring in Ukraine for the almost — the last almost three 
years, since Russia’s invasion?

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: I’m a human rights lawyer, which means that I applied 
the law to defend people and human dignity for many years. But now I found 
myself in a situation when the law doesn’t work. What we document, we document 
how Russian troops destroying residential buildings, schools, churches, museums 
and hospitals. They’ve taken evacuation corridors. They’re torturing people in 
filtration camps. They’ve forcibly taken Ukrainian children to Russia. They’re 
abducting, robbing, raping and killing civilians in the occupied territories. 
And the entire U.N. system of peace and security can’t stop it. Russia uses war 
crimes as the method of warfare. Russia instrumentalized the pain. Russia used 
the pain as a tool how to break people’s resistance and to occupy the country.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And, Oleksandra, you know, we last spoke to you, in fact, just 
days after the invasion, in February 2022. I mean, conditions have been so 
brutal. You’re in Kyiv, which has come under constant attack. Explain why you 
made the decision to stay in Kyiv all this time and how you and those who you 
know in the city have coped with the constant — the power blackouts and other 
things that have happened as Russia has continued its assault.

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: I decided to stay because this is my home. This is my 
country. This is my family. And we will fight for our freedom and for our human 
dignity. I remember this time very clearly, because not just Putin but also our 
international partners were confident that Ukraine has no potential to resist 
to such enormous opposing power. And I remember how even international 
organizations evacuated their personnel.

But ordinary people remained. And ordinary people started to do extraordinary 
things. It were ordinary people who helped to survive under artillery fires. It 
were ordinary people who took people out from the ruined cities. It were 
ordinary people who broke through the encirclement to provide humanitarian aid. 
And you know what? Suddenly, it became obvious that ordinary people fighting 
for their freedom and human dignity are stronger than even the second army in 
the world.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, let’s talk, Oleksandra, about what you think the 
prospects are for some kind of a peace or ceasefire deal. Moscow has recently 
rejected a peace plan by U.S. President-elect Trump to end the war, which 
proposed delaying Kyiv’s NATO membership in exchange for a ceasefire. This is 
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov speaking last week.


SERGEY LAVROV: [translated] We cannot be satisfied with empty talk. So far, all 
we hear is talk about the need to come up with some kind of truce, and it is 
not particularly hidden that this truce is needed in order to gain time to 
continue pumping Ukraine with weapons so that they can get themselves in order, 
carry out additional mobilization and so on. A truce is a road to nowhere. We 
need final legal agreements that will fix all the conditions for ensuring the 
security of the Russian Federation and, of course, the legitimate security 
interests of our neighbors, but in the context that will secure the 
impossibility of violating these agreements in an internationally legal manner.


NERMEEN SHAIKH: So, that’s Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. Oleksandra, 
if you could respond to what he said and what Ukraine’s demands are? What do 
you expect might happen once Trump comes into office in just a few weeks? And 
do you think Ukraine should be making concessions? And if so, what concessions?

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: I’m not surprised with this response from Russia, 
because Putin doesn’t want peace. Putin started this war not just to capture 
one more piece of Ukrainian land. Putin started this war to occupy and to 
destroy the whole Ukraine and to go further, to attack next countries and to 
forcibly restore Russian Empire. And the problem is that after two-and-a-half 
years of large-scale invasion, Putin didn’t refuse from this goal, because 
human life is the cheapest resources in Russian state. And we have to take this 
goal seriously in all our strategies and all our visions how to stop Russian 
war of aggression against Ukraine. And this means that we have to design a real 
security guarantees which make Putin’s goal not just to postpone it in time, 
but make it impossible for Putin to achieve.

And this is important, because people in Ukraine want peace much more than 
anyone else, because the war is horrible. But peace doesn’t come when country 
which was invaded stop resisting to Russian aggression. That’s not peace. 
That’s occupation. And occupation is horrible. It’s just the same war but in 
another form, because Russian occupation means torture, rapes, enforced 
disappearances, denial of your own identity, forcible adoption of your 
children, filtration camps and mass graves. And that’s why we have no other 
choice, because if we stop resisting to Russian aggression, it will be no more 
us.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And what do you expect with Trump coming into office in a few 
weeks? What changes in U.S. policy do you anticipate? And do you think that 
him, Trump, being in office may force Ukraine to give up territory in exchange 
for a peace deal with Russia? Trump has said he would end the war within 24 
hours of coming into office.

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: It’s very difficult for me to predict the policy of next 
president administration. I hope that Trump will use this famous Reagan 
principle to the peace through strength. And once again, we have to take the 
real goal of Russia seriously. Putin doesn’t want some more part of Ukrainian 
Donbas. Putin wants to achieve his historical goal to forcibly restore Russian 
Empire. He think about his legacy. So it’s not about territories at all. But 
for us, for Ukrainians, it’s also not just about territories, because we are 
fighting for people who live there. It’s our people. It’s our relatives. It’s 
our families. It’s our citizens. We can’t leave them alone for torture and 
death under Russian occupation. We have no moral rights. We have to return the 
human dimension of this war when we’re discussing these difficult geopolitical 
issues.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And, Oleksandra, what about the role of the European Union, the 
key countries in the European — France, Germany — their role in pushing for a 
ceasefire, and also the amount of aid that they’ve been giving to Ukraine, 
whether you think that’s adequate, and what you anticipate happening in the 
future as the EU also cuts back on aid?

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: It’s very difficult for me to provide expertise on the 
military assistance, because I’m not a military expert. But what I see, because 
I oftenly travel — it’s not just to Washington, but to Berlin, to Paris, to 
Rome, to Brussels — I see that politicians in the European Union started to 
understand that their countries are safe only because Ukrainians still 
fighting. I see this even in our human rights work.

What do I mean? Russia is empire. And empire has a center but has no borders. 
And empire always try to expand. And when I interviewed people who survived 
Russian captivity, they told me that Russians see their future like this: At 
first, we’ll occupy Ukraine, and then, together with you, we will go to conquer 
in other countries. And the process of forcible mobilization, Ukrainian 
citizens to Russian army, all these years is going on in the occupied 
territories. So, once again, people in the European Union are safe only because 
Ukrainians are still fighting with Russian aggression and don’t let Putin to go 
further.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And I want to go back to something that we mentioned earlier, 
which is this prisoner swap that’s just taken place. Russia and Ukraine have 
swapped more than 300 prisoners of war in a mass exchange brokered by the 
United Arab Emirates. If you could comment on what you think the significance 
of this is and what’s known about the Ukrainians who remain in Russian 
captivity, including civilians? And then also address Russia’s targeting of 
journalists. One case is Ukrainian journalist Victoria Roshchyna, who died in 
Russian detention earlier this year.

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: I worked with the topic of illegally detained civilians 
and prisoners of the war for 10 years. I personally interviewed hundreds and 
hundreds of people who survived in Russian captivity. And they told me how they 
were beaten, raped, smashed into wooden boxes. Their fingers were cut. Their 
nails were torn away. Their nails were drilled. There were electrical shocks 
through their own genitalia. One woman told me how her eye was took out with a 
spoon. Because Russia ignore not just all provisions of international 
humanitarian law; Russia ignore all senses of humanity. So, that’s why 
yesterday prisoner swap, it was so important for all people in Ukraine, because 
we released more than 180 people who will celebrate this holiday with their 
families. And this is extremely important, as well as thousands and thousands 
prisoners of the war and illegally detained civilians, among them a lot of 
women, are still in Russian captivity.

And let me tell a little bit about my friend and colleague Victoria Roshchyna, 
which you mentioned. She was Ukrainian journalist, extremely brave. She worked 
in occupied territories, because she thought that this is her journalist 
obligation to be there with the people who were alone with the occupiers. She 
was just 27 years old, and she died in September in Russian prison after 
illegally arrest. And Russians, for several times, refused to return her body 
to her family, because her body probably can tell more about what happened with 
her, why she was dead. And I ask myself: If we can’t press Russia to return the 
dead body of Ukrainian journalist to her family as international community, how 
we can to protect freedom of speech in the world at all?

NERMEEN SHAIKH: And, Oleksandra, finally, today marks 25 years since Putin has 
been president of Russia. Your reflections on that? And, of course, this is the 
last day of the year 2024. What do you hope will happen next year, in 2025? You 
wrote in your recent piece in The Hill, “Despite these horrific war crimes, the 
spirit of the Ukrainian people is unbroken.”

OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK: Let me quote my Russian human rights colleagues. They 
told that Putin, he has a big ear. He hear what Russians want, and he tried to 
implement it with this war, to restore the force of this Russian Empire 
forcibly and to demonstrate Russian people’s so-called Russian glory. And that 
is why the democratic success of Ukraine, it’s so important, because it’s not 
just a war between two states. This is a war between two systems: 
authoritarianism and democracy. And only success of Ukraine will provide a 
chance for democratic future for Russia itself, because Russian people, they 
can tolerate war criminal being their president, but Russian people will not 
tolerate loser war criminal.

NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, we’re going to have to leave it there. Oleksandra, thank 
you so much for joining us. Oleksandra Matviichuk, leading Ukrainian human 
rights lawyer and head of the human rights organization Center for Civil 
Liberties, which in 2022 was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. And she’s also the 
recipient of the Right Livelihood Award. Her recent piece for The Hill is 
headlined “Ukraine faces a cold, dark winter after Russia’s energy strikes.” 
She joined us from Kyiv.



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