> On Jan 4, 2025, at 4:04 PM, Charlie via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> • "The statistics reveal that as of end-2024, Russia had become the second 
> largest gas supplier to the EU after Norway, overtaking the United States — 
> now, that’s 3 years into the Ukraine war and the Western ‘sanctions from 
> hell’ notwithstanding."

There are all sorts of statistics that are useless outside of a model. If the 
model is how much revenue Russia gets from selling gas to Europe, then it went 
from providing 40% of Europe's needs pre-invasion to an estimated 8% today 
(https://www.euronews.com/2024/08/15/why-is-europe-still-getting-gas-from-russia?utm_source=chatgpt.com,
 
https://phys.org/news/2024-12-russian-gas-austria-europe.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com).
 

It seems to me that Russia lost the war in 2022 with the great help of weapons 
from the US and other NATO-aligned countries and much less from economic 
sanctions, but I doubt that losing such a large market share in such a large 
market is not a drag on the Russian economy. 

Mark

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