2 points: Mark Baugher writes that I should stop looking backwards and focus on the future and how to build a movement that fights Trump. In other words, let's never consider past mistakes, no matter how massive they may have been. David Walters apparently agrees with him. Contrary to what David wrote, it's not "silly" to ask about that because if we can't recognize our mistakes we will simply end up covering them up and repeating them over and over.
Second, it's always so ironic to hear the fierce denunciations of not only the Democrats but also of those socialists who advocated voting for the Democrats to keep Trump out.... coming from the same "revolutionaries" who have nary a word of criticism of the "progressive" union bureaucrats and the left intellectuals who buzz around them like moths around a light bulb. After all, these "progressive" bureaucrats are just as determined as their more conservative brethren to stifle any real, independent rank and file movement and most of all to prevent any working class movement that might develop into a movement for a working class party. And finally: Ben Seattle is right. A few hundred revolutionaries, whether they are genuine or not, will not build a movement. What they can do is recognize a movement that may be developing, understand it, work within it, encourage it and *learn* from it. That's how we can start to play a role. But those who are unwilling to even consider past mistakes won't learn from the present situation. They will come into it with the same arrogance and the same religious-like assumptions. They will remain in the same old echo chamber. They might find it more comfortable in there, but they will continue to be just as irrelevant as always. John Reimann -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#39738): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/39738 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/116809895/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/13617172/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
