Bhaskar Sunkara is the owner of Jacobin magazine, president of The Nation 
magazine, and the author of books advocating market socialism. He is a bigwig 
in DSA. NY Times columnist Ross Douthat did a one-hour podcast with him.

Here are a few remarks by Sunkara. You may find it helpful in conversations to 
take apart two fundamentals that this DSA theorist holds to:
His socialism keeps private firms run for profit.
And he resorts to attacking "Stalinism."

Excerpts:

There needs to be a motor for economic investment. There needs to be 
profitability in order to have something to redistribute. The added component 
that I would say is an important part of a socialist agenda is making sure that 
there are strong unions in workplaces that can advocate for higher wages even 
before the state gets involved with redistribution.
And in my vision of a just society, of a socialist society, that private 
property would be controlled by ordinary workers who would get their financing 
from public banks, who would still operate with hard budgets. They would still 
need to meet [that is, produce] goods and services and meet their payroll 
obligations and things like that. But you don’t have a class of people who, as 
individuals, control investment decisions.

He [Michael Harrington] was part of the organic establishment, to the left of 
social democracy, people who just wanted to make capitalism a little bit more 
humane — but also, you could say, to the right of a certain Leninism. (The 
columnist interjects, "To the right of Joseph Stalin.") Of course, as we should 
all aspire to be.

There are people who self-describe as Communists in the D.S.A., but what this 
handful of people are doing are invoking a tradition that in other contexts we 
would just call anarchism. My tradition on the American left is very aware of 
Stalinism, of authoritarianism, of its threat. I don’t think those currents 
exist in even the smallest margin in D.S.A. I think you have a lot of youthful, 
ultra-leftist people who like the word because it’s more transgressive. But 
nobody is looking to the Soviet Union or anything like that.

–From 
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/16/opinion/democratic-socialist-capitalism-bhaskar-sunkara.html


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