+1, we need to have a demo of an OpenSocial application powered by the
Mashup Server to flesh out any strategic advantages our platform has (if
any) for OpenSocial developers.

Jonathan Marsh - http://www.wso2.com - http://auburnmarshes.spaces.live.com
 

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> On Behalf Of Tyrell Perera
> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:42 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [mashup-dev] [Fwd: [VOTE] Accept Shindig for Incubation]
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> Well OpenSocial came as a Facebook killer. In Facebook, you get a very
> simple REST developer API where one can develop Facebook Apps with.
> This
> API allows third party service providers such as Flixter, Paypal etc.
> to
> introduce/plug in their services into the Facebook community.
> 
> OpenSocial is Google's open source alternative to the Facebook API. If
> a
> community site implements the OpenSocial API, it not only enables third
> party service providers to write OpenSocial Applications for it, but
> also re-use the same application in other communities implementing the
> OpenSocial API. It's a write once run anywhere approach of sorts.
> 
> ex: LinkedIn, Orkut and MySpace implements the OpenSocial API in their
> community sites. I write an application targeting LinkedIn using the
> OpenSocial API, which allows LinkedIn users to get the latest updates
> in
> WSO2 OT. Because I used the OpenSocial API, now my application can be
> used by Orkut and MySpace users as well.
> 
> The way I see it, Facebook, the OpenSocial API and Its containers can
> all be considered as Mashup platforms. I also agree with you on Mashup
> Server being an OpenSocial type container.
> 
> Regards,
> Tyrell
> 
> 
> Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:
> > Is this something we can use in the mashup server?? Or is it a
> > "competitor" of some sort? Not sure .. I don't think so. Or maybe the
> > mashup server is some type of open social type container too?
> >
> > I haven't read up enough on open social yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
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> >
> > Subject:
> > [VOTE] Accept Shindig for Incubation
> > From:
> > Brian McCallister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date:
> > Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:59:51 -0800
> > To:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > To:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > This vote will run until Monday, Dec. 3, 2007.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Accept Shindig for incubation
> > [ ] 0 Don't care
> > [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason :
> >
> > --------
> > = Abstract =
> >
> > Shindig will develop a container and backend server components for
> > hosting OpenSocial applications.
> >
> > = Proposal =
> >
> > Shindig will develop a JavaScript container and implementations of
> > the backend APIs and proxy required for hosting OpenSocial
> applications.
> >
> > = Background =
> >
> > OpenSocial provides a common set of APIs for social applications
> > across multiple websites. With standard JavaScript and HTML,
> > developers can create social applications that use a social network's
> > friends and update feeds.
> >
> > A social application, in this context, is an application run by a
> > third party provider and embedded in a web page, or web application,
> > which consumes services provided by the container and by the
> > application host. This is very similar to Portal/Portlet technology,
> > but is based on client-side compositing, rather than server.
> >
> > More information can be found about OpenSocial at
> > http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
> >
> > == Rationale ==
> >
> > Shindig will provide implementations of an emerging set of APIs
> > for client-side composited web applications. The Apache Software
> > Foundation has proven to have developed a strong system and set of
> > mores for building community-centric, open standards based systems
> > with a wide variety of participants.
> >
> > A robust, community-developed implementation of these APIs will
> > encourage compatibility between service providers, ensure an
> excellent
> > implementation is available to everyone, and enable faster and
> > easier application development for users.
> >
> > The Apache Software Foundation has proven it is the best place for
> > this type of open development.
> >
> > The Shindig OpenSocial implementation will be able to serve as
> > a reference implementation of the standard.
> >
> > = Current Status =
> >
> > This is a new project.
> >
> > = Meritocracy =
> >
> > The initial developers are very familiar with meritocratic open
> > source development, both at Apache and elsewhere. Apache was chosen
> > specifically because the initial developers want to encourage this
> > style of development for the project.
> >
> > === Community ===
> >
> > Shindig seeks to develop developer and user communities during
> > incubation.
> >
> > = Core Developers =
> >
> > The initial set of committers includes folks from several commercial
> > OpenSocial container providers, including Ning, Google, Hi5, and
> > MySpace. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style
> > open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members.
> >
> > = Alignment =
> >
> > The developers of Shindig want to work with the Apache Software
> > Foundation specifically because Apache has proven to provide a
> > strong foundation and set of practices for developing standards-based
> > infrastructure and server components.
> >
> > = Known Risks =
> >
> > == Orphaned products ==
> >
> > Shindig is new development of an emerging set of APIs.
> >
> > == Inexperience with Open Source ==
> >
> > The initial developers include long-time open source developers,
> > including Apache Members.
> >
> > == Homogenous Developers ==
> >
> > The initial set of developers is diverse, but are all employed by
> > OpenSocial
> > container providers. Building a more diverse developer community is a
> high
> > priority for this project.
> >
> > == Reliance on Salaried Developers ==
> >
> > The initial group of developers are all employed by potential
> consumers
> > of the project. Remedying this is a large part of why we want to
> bring the
> > project to Apache.
> >
> > == Relationships with Other Apache Products ==
> >
> > None in particular.
> >
> > ==  A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ==
> >
> > We believe in the processes, systems, and framework Apache has put
> > in place. The brand is nice, but is not why we wish to come to
> > Apache.
> >
> > = Documentation =
> >
> > Google's OpenSocial Documentation:
> >     http://code.google.com/apis/opensocial/
> >
> > Ning's OpenSocial Documentation:
> >     http://tinyurl.com/3y5ckx
> >
> > = Initial Source =
> >
> > The initial source will consist of the Javascript container and a
> > Java based backend providing services to the container. The source
> > is being contributed by Google, and will be by a code grant.
> >
> > = External Dependencies =
> >
> > The initial code relies on PHP and the jQuery library.
> >
> > = Required Resources =
> >
> > Developer and user mailing lists
> >
> > A subversion repository
> >
> > A JIRA issue tracker
> >
> > = Initial Committers =
> >
> >     Andy Smith          (Google)
> >     Brian McCallister   (Ning)
> >     Brian Stoler        (Google)
> >     Cassie Doll         (Google)
> >     Dan Bentley         (Google)
> >     Dan Farino          (MySpace)
> >     David Glazer        (Google)
> >     David Harkness      (Google)
> >     David Sklar         (Ning)
> >     Doug Coker          (Google)
> >     Evan Gilbert        (Google)
> >     Graham Spencer      (Google)
> >     Jeffrey Regan       (Google)
> >     John Hjelmstad      (Google)
> >     John Panzer         (Google)
> >     Jun Yang            (Google)
> >     Jussi Myllymaki     (Google)
> >     Kevin Brown         (Google)
> >     Martin Traverso     (Ning)
> >     Paul Lindner        (Hi5)
> >     Ramkumar Ramani     (Google)
> >     Thomas Baker        (Ning)
> >     Thomas Dudziak      (Ning)
> >     Tim Williamson      (Ning)
> >     Zhen Wang           (Google)
> >
> > = Sponsors =
> >
> > == Champion ==
> >
> >     Brian McCallister
> >
> > == Nominated Mentors ==
> >
> >     Thomas Dudziak
> >     Brian Fitzpatrick
> >     Santiago Gala
> >     Greg Stein
> >     Upayavira
> >     Sylvain Wallez
> >
> > == Sponsoring Entity ==
> >
> > The Apache Incubator.
> >
> >
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