Hey Everyone..

I was being plagued with seeing ICQ users go on/off line all
the time.  Finally, it dawned on me that this might be due to
a MASQ timeout.  So, I up'ed the UDP timeout to several hours
and that fixed things.  But.. several hours is OVERKILL so
I did a little research.

It seems that the ICQ protocol is pretty inconsistant.  I ran a 
TCPDUMP last night to see if I could drop the IP MASQ UDP timeout
a bit and this is what I found.  See the bottom for the results.
If you too are having ICQ flapping issues, change your IPFWADM or
IPCHAINS timeouts to 10mins or 600 seconds for UDP.  That should 
be good enough.

--David


Time            Source                                  Destination             
protocol                time diff.
40:04.9 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         
44:56.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         04:51.5
48:05.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         03:09.3
56:06.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
57:56.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         01:50.0
59:01.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         01:05.0
04:06.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:05.7
12:07.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.8
12:39.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:31.8
20:08.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         07:28.7
28:08.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
32:57.9 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         04:49.7
36:09.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         03:11.1
44:09.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.8
52:10.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.9
00:11.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.8
03:55.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         03:44.0
08:11.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         04:16.2
13:43.2 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:31.5
15:43.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         01:59.9
15:58.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:15.0
16:12.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:14.0
24:12.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
32:02.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         07:50.3
32:12.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:10.1
32:45.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:32.9
33:58.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         01:13.0
39:03.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     24     
         05:04.8
40:13.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         01:10.0
45:48.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:34.5
48:14.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         02:26.0
56:14.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
04:14.9 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
06:06.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         01:51.8
12:15.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         06:08.9
15:21.9 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         03:06.3
20:16.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         04:54.1
28:16.2 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.2
36:16.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.4
43:55.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     24     
         07:38.8
44:17.2 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:21.7
52:17.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
00:17.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.2
08:18.2 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
16:18.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
24:19.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
28:47.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         04:28.5
32:19.9 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         03:32.1
40:20.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.7
48:21.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.8
56:22.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.8
04:22.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.4
12:23.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.4
20:23.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
20:23.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.64976      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     44     
         00:00.1
20:24.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     64     
         00:00.8
20:29.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:05.2
20:30.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     61     
         00:00.3
20:35.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:05.7
21:31.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:56.0
22:12.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:41.0
28:25.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         06:12.4
36:25.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.4
44:25.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
52:26.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.7
00:27.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.7
08:27.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.2
16:27.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
24:28.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
32:28.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
40:29.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
48:29.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.4
51:20.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         02:50.5
56:30.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:10.0
01:51.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:21.0
04:30.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         02:39.4
12:30.9 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
20:31.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.8
23:09.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         02:37.5
28:32.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:23.2
36:33.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
44:33.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
52:33.9 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
00:34.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
08:34.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
16:35.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
24:35.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
32:36.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
40:36.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.7
48:37.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.7
56:38.2 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.8
04:38.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
12:39.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
20:39.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
28:40.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
36:40.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
44:40.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
52:41.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.4
57:32.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         04:50.9
00:41.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         03:09.6
07:18.2 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         06:36.6
08:42.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         01:24.1
11:46.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         03:04.0
16:43.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         04:56.6
16:53.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:10.0
24:43.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         07:50.5
32:43.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.4
40:44.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.2
48:44.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.3
56:45.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
04:45.4 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
12:46.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.6
15:26.0 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         02:40.0
20:46.6 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:20.6
28:47.1 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.5
36:47.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:00.7
39:35.3 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         02:47.5
44:48.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         05:13.2
52:49.5 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         08:01.0
55:21.7 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         02:32.3
57:13.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     24     
         01:52.1
57:23.8 trinity2.trinnet.net.61209      >       icq.mirabilis.com.4000: udp     20     
         00:10.0

                        Number of samples:      120
                        Average interval:       05:35.9                 
                        Min Interval:           00:00.1                 
                        Max Interval:           08:01.0                 

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