On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Eric Firing <efir...@hawaii.edu> wrote:

> On 02/26/2011 10:54 AM, Darren Dale wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Darren Dale<dsdal...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Eric Firing<efir...@hawaii.edu>
>  wrote:
> >>> On 02/26/2011 09:26 AM, Darren Dale wrote:
> >>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Eric Firing<efir...@hawaii.edu>
>  wrote:
> >>>>> On 02/16/2011 08:38 AM, Darren Dale wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Fernando Perez<fperez.net@
> gmail.com>      wrote:
> >>>>>>> are you guys planning on transfering the old bugs to github?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Probably at some point.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As I
> >>>>>>> mentioned, I have code lying around for the upload (and to download
> >>>>>>> from launchpad, but that's irrelevant here).  I'm going to be mosly
> >>>>>>> offline til Monday (conference trip), but if someone pings me on my
> >>>>>>> Berkeley email address, which I monitor even while traveling, I'll
> be
> >>>>>>> happy to help out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks, that would be very helpful. I'll follow up once I figure out
> >>>>>> how to extract the information from sourceforge.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Darren,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just a heads-up on that: In November the tracker was heavily spammed.
> >>>>> Recently I marked a few hundred items with the "delete" disposition,
> but
> >>>>> I don't think that actually gets rid of them.  If it doesn't, then
> maybe
> >>>>> they can be filtered out during the transfer.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have some additional spam that needs to be deleted. How did you do
> >>>> it? When I try to delete several at once (mass change), I get an error
> >>>> message: "XSRF Attempt Detected!"
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I made the tracker display the maximum number of entries per page, then
> >>> clicked "check all", then "mass update" with "delete", and it marked
> >>> them as "deleted"--but they never get deleted.  They are still there,
> >>> but marked "deleted". It sounds like that is the same as what you
> tried,
> >>> so I don't know why you are getting that error message.
> >>>
> >>> Which tracker category is showing the new spam?
> >>
> >> The Feature Requests. I was not able to mark the spam as deleted, but
> >> I filtered it out in the conversion.
> >
> > Let me try again:
> >
> > The tracker export xml file and conversion script are up at
> > https://github.com/darrendale/mpl-issues , and the issues can be
> > previewed at https://github.com/darrendale/mpl-issues/issues . Devs,
> > please have a
> > look. I only imported the open issues, including bugs, patches,
> > feature requests and support requests. If we decide to use the github
> > tracker, we can tell sourceforge we have relocated the project, and
> > the project will remain intact and archived. I don't know if that
> > would mean that we can no longer host the homepage at sourceforge.
>
> The submitter info is lost?
> And when it was originally submitted?
> If yes to either, then I think that we should not transfer these from
> sourceforge, but deal with them there.
> Overall, the tracking interface on github looks so bad that I can't see
> why we would want to move.  Sourceforge is slow, but at least the
> tracker has the right sort of functionality: the ability to scan a lot
> of info on one screen, the ability to categorize, attach files, assign,
> etc.  Maybe some of this is available but not evident in the github
> tracker, but what I see is not encouraging.
>
> Mpl historically has not done well in using the tracker.  I hope that
> eventually we can transition to a tool that will help us do better, not
> worse.
>
> Eric
>
>
Ditto on this.  Github has been a wonderful tool for *developers*, but for
users of projects, I haven't seen the amount of sophistication and polish
that sourceforge has.

I am personally fine with continuing to use sourceforge for the tracker (I
know I need to catch up on bugs there...).  My main concern, though, is
having two active issue trackers -- one on sourceforge and one on github.

Ben Root
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