@tacaswell regarding your last comments on the wiki

Again, please let me know if something is not clear or you have suggestions

Again, sorry for the long email, but please don't forget the previous
one about the locks.....

activate: I agree with you, renamed to trigger

[I don't understand. The `__init__` gets called when the tool object
is created (and it gets registered with a particular
`NavigationBase`/`Figure`/`canvas`.  The tool object then sits around
doing nothing waiting to be triggered.  I can see wanting to remove
one of these buttons, in which case it will need to be un-registered]

I am not expressing myself correctly, what I am trying to say is that
the Tool object is only created when the tool is triggered.
The tool.trigger method is called in the ToolBase.__init__ method
For ToolBase tools, the object is not registered, so there is no
reference to it anywhere, so it should be garbage collected. I can add
a del to the object but I think is unnecesary.


ToolPersistentBase
[shouldn't `__init__` be called when the tool is created?
I think the confusion here is that I don't create the tools until they
are triggered, until then, is just a reference to the class. in the
navitaion._tools dict.

ToolToggleBase
[I would give them enable/disable methods, and make their `triggered`
action to call their own `enable`]
Actually it makes more sense, thanks.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Federico Ariza
<ariza.feder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello again
>
> I have been playing with the locks to find a solution.
> What we need is a way to let tools absorb the events (lock its use).
>
> The problem that I'm facing is that Navigation itself needs to capture
> two different events.
>
> key_press_event for tool triggering
> motion_notify_event for setting the message with the pointer position
> and cursor changing.
>
> Now the options that I see are:
>
> Let the tools disconnect and reconnect this signals in navigation.
> self.figure.canvas.mpl_disconnect(self.navigation.id_move)
> ....
> self.navigation.id_move =
> self.figure.canvas.mpl_connect('motion_notify_event',
> self.navigation.mouse_move)
>
> Create helper methods to disconnect and reconnect this signals in navigation
> self.navigation.disconnect('mouse_move')
> ....
> self.navigation.connect('mouse_move')
>
> Use locks and let navigation redirect these events to the appropiate
> place (what I'm doing right now).
> self.navigation.movelock(self)
> self.navigation.movelock.release(self)
>
> Do you see other options?
>
> One thing that is clear, is that for the moment Navigation needs only
> two handlers, so I can reduce the number of locks to two....
>
> Thanks
> Federico
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Federico Ariza
> <ariza.feder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> @tacaswell I modified the wiki reflecting the changes and trying to
>> answer the questions.
>> Please let me know if I answered your questions/concerns. We can
>> iterate as muchs as needed on this, I have no problem modifying the
>> names or functionnality.
>>
>> Sorry for the long email
>> Here a list of things that I changed
>>
>> ToolBase
>> description = '': Small description of the tool
>>
>> persistent = False: If True, the instance of the Tool is registered
>> with Navigation for reuse.
>> This is needed because some tools are keept alive in the background,
>> for example SubplotTool.
>>
>> position = None: Where is it positionned in the toolbar?. -1 = at the
>> end, None = Not in the toolbar.
>> The default tools are all ordered by their position in the Navigation
>> _default_tools array. This argument is mainly used by User created
>> tools that are added after the Toolbar creation.
>> My idea was that for the user created tools, the user could set the
>> position without having to subclass the Navigation class.
>> So this information has to be included in the Tool.
>>
>>
>> activate(self, event): This is the main method of the Tool, it is
>> called when the Tool is triggered by:
>>   * Toolbar button click
>>   * keypress associated with the Tool Keymap
>>   * Call to navigation.click_tool(name)
>>
>>
>> ToolPersistentBase
>> unregister(self, *args): ... Because ToolBase is intened for single
>> use, there is no need of registration for the instances, persistent
>> tools, need to be registered so __init__ is called only onece during
>> the first trigger
>>
>>
>> NavigationBase
>> locks.... I tend to agree with you.
>> The idea that I had in mind, and maybe was more complex than expected.
>> Was to redirect the events to the tool without need to call the
>> mpl_connect within the tool. So I provided the methods to handle those
>> events directly.
>> This is also from the idea that if we implement the
>> MultiFigureManager, when there is a change on the 'active_figure'
>> Navigation knows about the change and changes the event handlers, in
>> this case the Tools don't need to do anything.
>> It was just to simplify the Tool creation eliminating the need for
>> basic event connection in case of figure changes.
>>
>> Even if we remove the locks we need two locks:
>> canvaslock (for the input)
>> keypress lock, to give the tool the option to absorb the keypress
>> completely. (Tool for anotations comes to mind)
>>
>> I didn't remove the comment for the locks, because I am not sure what
>> is the best option.
>>
>>
>> ToolbarBase
>> I tried to clarify the use of the methods. Most of the methods that
>> you mentionned, are for internal use only but are mandatory for
>> backend implementation.
>> Also I updated the wiki with the "_" that was missing from the private 
>> methods.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Thomas A Caswell <tcasw...@uchicago.edu> 
>> wrote:
>>> I left some comments on the wiki (in []).  Not sure what the best way
>>> to leave comments is.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 5:04 PM, Federico Ariza
>>> <ariza.feder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello everybody
>>>>
>>>> I just added  "click_tool" to simulate a click programatically.
>>>> https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/2759
>>>>
>>>> Is there anything missing or that you want to change?
>>>> I'm saturated so I don't see anything anymore.
>>>>
>>>> I would like to have some input specially in the `ToolbarBase` class.
>>>> I am ready to start the implementation on the other backends, and this
>>>> is the "new class" that have to be implemented for all the backends.
>>>> `Navigation` is mostly copy paste from existing toolbar
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Federico
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Phil Elson <pelson....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Federico,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just wanted to say that I've been a little busy lately, but your MEP is
>>>>> really shaping up - I really like the concepts that are being proposed and
>>>>> think it will make a huge difference to people who want to implement 
>>>>> custom
>>>>> UIs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep up the great work, and continue trying to get feedback from all of us
>>>>> on this!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 January 2014 18:43, Federico Ariza <ariza.feder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everybody
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just added some documentation for the MEP22 new classes and methods.
>>>>>> Please take a look https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/2759
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran into some problems, when trying to decide if some methods where
>>>>>> public or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the method was used only for backend implementation pourposes I put
>>>>>> it as private (name starts with underscore) but still documented them
>>>>>> in the Notes section of the class.
>>>>>> I don't know if this is the correct way to do it, but I couldn't decide.
>>>>>> If you prefer any other way to do it, please let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> Federico
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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