I wasn't referring to just the default colors, but the default style in
general. Things like background, line thickness, padding, ticks, etc. I
thought that there was agreement that the default matplotlib style is not
optimal,  and that the point of the 2.0 release was to put all the
stylistic changes in one release so people don't have to keep changing
their unit tests.

On Feb 8, 2015 11:04 PM, "Thomas Caswell" <tcasw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> To overhauling all of the default colors, I think that is still in the
cards, but some one who is not me needs to drive that.
>
> The goal of pulling pyplot out of backend_bases is exactly that, to be
able to do everything using the OO interface in a convenient way.
>
> Tom
>
> On Sun Feb 08 2015 at 4:50:51 PM Todd <toddr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2015 1:13 AM, "Thomas Caswell" <tcasw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > To start with, the 2.0 release is pending a choice of new default
color map.  I think that when we pick that we should cut 2.0 off of the
last release and then the next minor release turns into 2.1.  If we want to
do other breaking changes we will just do a 3.0 when that happens.  It
makes sense to me to bundle default color changes as one set of breaking
changes and code API changes as another.
>>
>> I thought there was going to be a complete overhaul of the default
theme?  Has that idea been abandoned?
>>
>> >  - making OO interface easier to use interactively (if interactive,
auto-redraw at sensible time)
>> >
>> >  - pull the pyplot state machine out of backend_bases and expose the
figure_manager classes
>>
>> Do either of these mean that it will be possible to use the OO interface
without needing to go through pyplot?
>>
>>
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