The PTDF is a linear approximation, so it won't match the results of an AC 
power flow exactly. If you do your experiment with a DC power flow you should 
see no change in flow on branch 14.

-- 
Ray Zimmerman
Senior Research Associate
B30 Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
phone: (607) 255-9645





On Aug 5, 2013, at 10:44 AM, nana <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Dear Dr Zimmerman,
> 
> Thanks for your reply. But I am still confusing about the second question of  
> why line 14(branch 14) is all zero except column 8(bus 8) . 
> 
> For the second question, I did the following experiment.
>  I tried to increase the load on bus 2 (from 21.7 MW to 121.7 MW). Then I 
> test the branch power flow of 14(bus7-bus8). I found the branch power flow of 
> 14 did change from 11.7 MW to 48.145 MW. To calculate the branch power flow, 
> I use branch_power_flow = sqrt( results.branch(14, PF) ^ 2 + 
> results.branch(14, QF) ^2 ). 
> 
> Can you tell me why this result, branch power flow of 14(7-8) did change when 
> I do a power injection on bus 2, is different from what PTDF matrix shows me?
> 
> Thanks for your patience and help.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Ray Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1. Unfortunately, "branch power flow" is not a precisely defined term. Your 
> first expression is the apparent power flow at the "from" end of the branch, 
> whereas, mpc.branch(1, PF) is just the real or active power flow. Keep in 
> mind that the flow at the "to" end is likely different, so if you are looking 
> for a single number you may want to average them (you'll need to flip the 
> sign of one of them to that).
> 
> 2. That row defines the sensitivities of the flow on line 7-8 with respect to 
> an increase in injection at the corresponding bus (with slack at bus 1 
> decreasing the injection to compensate). Since bus 8 is connected radially to 
> the system at bus 7, increasing the injection at any bus except bus 8 will 
> have no impact on the flow in line 7-8. 
> 
> -- 
> Ray Zimmerman
> Senior Research Associate
> B30 Warren Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
> phone: (607) 255-9645
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Yahook K <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Dr Zimmerman
>> 
>> I have 2 questions.
>> 
>> First, in ac mode, if I want to calculate the branch power flow, take branch 
>> 1 for example, should I use  sqrt( mpc.branch(1,PF)^2 + mpc.branch(1,QF)^2 ) 
>> ?    Or simply mpc.branch(1,PF) is the branch power flow we meant in the 
>> power system?
>> 
>> Second, the following is the PTDF matrix for the case14.m(a 14 bus example). 
>> I generate this use makePTDF(mpc.baseMVA,mpc.bus,mpc.branch,1). But I don't 
>> understand why line 14(branch 14) is all zero except column 7(bus 7) . What 
>> does this mean. And if I increase bus 1's power load by 1 MW,  when I 
>> runopf(mpc), the power flow of branch 14, is not zero (I use sqrt( 
>> mpc.branch(1,PF)^2 + mpc.branch(1,QF)^2 ) ).
>> 
>>          0   -0.8380   -0.7465   -0.6675   -0.6106   -0.6291   -0.6573   
>> -0.6573   -0.6518   -0.6477
>>          0   -0.1620   -0.2535   -0.3325   -0.3894   -0.3709   -0.3427   
>> -0.3427   -0.3482   -0.3523
>>          0    0.0273   -0.5320   -0.1513   -0.1031   -0.1188   -0.1427   
>> -0.1427   -0.1380   -0.1346
>>          0    0.0572   -0.1434   -0.3167   -0.2158   -0.2487   -0.2986   
>> -0.2986   -0.2888   -0.2817
>>          0    0.0774   -0.0711   -0.1994   -0.2917   -0.2616   -0.2160   
>> -0.2160   -0.2249   -0.2314
>>          0    0.0273    0.4680   -0.1513   -0.1031   -0.1188   -0.1427   
>> -0.1427   -0.1380   -0.1346
>>          0    0.0799    0.3067    0.5026   -0.3012   -0.0389    0.3584    
>> 0.3584    0.2808    0.2240
>>          0    0.0030    0.0113    0.0186   -0.0111   -0.2075   -0.6338   
>> -0.6338   -0.4469   -0.4043
>>          0    0.0017    0.0066    0.0108   -0.0065   -0.1211   -0.1658   
>> -0.1658   -0.2608   -0.2360
>>          0   -0.0047   -0.0179   -0.0294    0.0176   -0.6714   -0.2004   
>> -0.2004   -0.2924   -0.3597
>>          0   -0.0028   -0.0108   -0.0177    0.0106    0.1979   -0.1207   
>> -0.1207   -0.1760   -0.2873
>>          0   -0.0004   -0.0016   -0.0026    0.0016    0.0291   -0.0177   
>> -0.0177   -0.0259   -0.0161
>>          0   -0.0014   -0.0056   -0.0091    0.0055    0.1017   -0.0620   
>> -0.0620   -0.0904   -0.0563
>>          0         0         0         0         0         0         0   
>> -1.0000         0         0
>>          0    0.0030    0.0113    0.0186   -0.0111   -0.2075    0.3662    
>> 0.3662   -0.4469   -0.4043
>>          0    0.0028    0.0108    0.0177   -0.0106   -0.1979    0.1207    
>> 0.1207    0.1760   -0.7127
>>          0    0.0019    0.0071    0.0117   -0.0070   -0.1307    0.0797    
>> 0.0797    0.1163    0.0724
>>          0    0.0028    0.0108    0.0177   -0.0106   -0.1979    0.1207    
>> 0.1207    0.1760    0.2873
>>          0   -0.0004   -0.0016   -0.0026    0.0016    0.0291   -0.0177   
>> -0.0177   -0.0259   -0.0161
>>          0   -0.0019   -0.0071   -0.0117    0.0070    0.1307   -0.0797   
>> -0.0797   -0.1163   -0.0724
>> 
>>   Columns 11 through 14
>> 
>>    -0.6386   -0.6309   -0.6323   -0.6433
>>    -0.3614   -0.3691   -0.3677   -0.3567
>>    -0.1269   -0.1204   -0.1215   -0.1308
>>    -0.2655   -0.2519   -0.2543   -0.2738
>>    -0.2463   -0.2587   -0.2564   -0.2387
>>    -0.1269   -0.1204   -0.1215   -0.1308
>>     0.0948   -0.0137    0.0061    0.1607
>>    -0.3076   -0.2264   -0.2412   -0.3569
>>    -0.1795   -0.1321   -0.1408   -0.2083
>>    -0.5128   -0.6415   -0.6181   -0.4348
>>    -0.5402    0.1683    0.1452   -0.0356
>>     0.0061   -0.5211   -0.1697   -0.0887
>>     0.0213   -0.2886   -0.5936   -0.3104
>>          0         0         0         0
>>    -0.3076   -0.2264   -0.2412   -0.3569
>>    -0.4598   -0.1683   -0.1452    0.0356
>>    -0.0274   -0.1902   -0.2367   -0.6008
>>    -0.4598   -0.1683   -0.1452    0.0356
>>     0.0061    0.4789   -0.1697   -0.0887
>>     0.0274    0.1902    0.2367   -0.3992
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your patience.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Yahook
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Sicong

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