Hi Simone,

 

I’m not certain I understand your question.  The pair-wise test data include 
winding resistance and leakage inductance (I ignored resistance in my example 
for simplicity).  This pair-wise test data does not account for the magnetizing 
branch if that is what you mean by RM.  

 

If you search the archive 
(https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/) on “3-winders” you will 
see a reply from Ray explaining that the psse2mpc() function is used to convert 
3-winding transformers to multiple 2-winding transformers to put in mpc.branch. 
 I don’t know what is “under the hood” on that function.  I would be interested 
to see the math if you take the time to figure it out.

 

You can’t just put the pair-wise data directly into mpc.branch for 3-winding 
transformers.  In my experience, the only case in which that would work fine is 
when the transformer is balanced (H-X and H-Y pair impedances are equal, or 
very close) and the 2 generators are loaded the same (P,Q).  Otherwise, you 
need to convert using psse2mpc().

 

Best regards,

russ

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simone Fratton
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 5:36 AM
To: MATPOWER discussion forum
Subject: Re: Negative resistance

 

Hello, thank you so much again for your answer to the problem of negative 
resistances. I still have doubts though. Considering precisely the T diagram 
for the 3-winding transformer (that of your attached) the possible negative 
resistance that I find myself is RM? How do I know the value of the other 
resistances? I will eventually only have 2 rows of mpc.branch used for the 
3-winding transformer or am I wrong?

Thank you so much in advance I hope I don't bother you too much

 

Il giorno ven 18 giu 2021 alle ore 15:01 Russ Patterson <[email protected]> ha 
scritto:

Hi Simone,

 

The negative branch is due to the conversion of pair-wise transformer test data 
to “T” model.  See if the attached helps.  It is not a “real” negative physical 
value – it is necessary for the mathematical model.

 

Best regards,

russ

 

 

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Simone Fratton
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 5:17 AM
To: MATPOWER discussion forum
Subject: Re: Negative resistance

 

Thank you very much for your answer, but I am not sure that I have yet 
understood why; especially if at the end it's about having a transformer with 
negative resistance. 

 

Il giorno ven 18 giu 2021 alle ore 11:08 Dirk Van Hertem 
<[email protected]> ha scritto:

Hello,

Negative resistances normally correspond to equivalent branches...

Dirk

On 18/06/2021 11:04, Simone Fratton wrote:

Hello everyone,

I wanted to ask you if anyone knows exactly why in some cases the resistance of 
mpc.branch is negative? Or at least if someone has any good ideas. 

For example, case3012wp has as many as 10 negative resistances (all refer to a 
transformer).

Thank you all very much. 

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