On 9/12/12 1:09 AM, Tobias Wunden wrote:
> Hi Denny,
> 
> great to see that you are doing a decent review of the archive *and*
> are sending feedback to this list :-)

Of course!  I'd hop on IRC but I'd probably never hop off. :)

>> In 1.3, all "recordings" show under the episodes tab, but in 1.4
>> the only way to get things in there is to check the "archive" box
>> when scheduling.
> 
> The reason for this change is that some developers were unhappy with
> the archive now actually behaving like an archive, meaning it
> actually archives your content, which requires space on your hard
> drive. This is why you need to explicitly check the "archive"
> checkbox. You can easily change your workflow definition to do
> archival by default, just remove the checkbox from the ui portion of
> the workflow definition and remove the "if" clause from the "archive"
> operation.

I get it, thanks!

How do folks manage non-archived content?  How would one retract a
"recording" which was not archived, for instance?

>> Further, when I do this, the "state" of the episode/archive is
>> always "retracted". Further further, whenever I try to "do stuff"
>> with "episodes" -- re-encode, retract, etc. -- it fails.  I
>> generally see jetty-related file errors like this in the log:
>> 
>> WARN (AbstractEpisodeServiceRestEndpoint$2$1:353) - Error writing
>> file contents to response org.mortbay.jetty.EofException at
>> org.mortbay.jetty.HttpGenerator.flush(HttpGenerator.java:789)
>> 
>> Probably a configuration issue.  I'm gonna mess around with the
>> storage stuff in a second anyways, and see if that changes things.
> 
> Actually less probably a configuration issue but a bug. 1.4 is still
> work in progress and there are bugs that need to be resolved. If you
> manage to reliably reproduce an issue, please consider filing a bug
> at opencastproject.jira.com.

I saw it in 1.3 too I think.  If I figure out what's going on I'll file
a ticket, or report back what dumb thing I did that broke it, for future
breakers.  :)

>> It seems like there is a ton of functionality exposed through REST
>> and very little exposed via the UI, which seems a bit odd... but I
>> digress.
> 
> There is an easy fix to that as well. Donate your insights into what
> needs to be in the ui to the project in terms of mock ups, user
> stories in Jira or even resources, and things will magically start to
> appear in the ui as well :-) We have lots of ideas for the archive,
> but we are currently lacking the equivalent amount of resources aka
> money.

I hear it.  I'll try to contribute.  I'm decent at Java and Javascript
(prefer dojo over jquery), work with OSGI, have worked with ffmpeg &
red5 type stuff on and off over the years, am big on automated testing
and deployment, yadda yadda.  I'm hard pressed for money's alter-ego
Time though.  :-/

>> Is the plan to rename "Episodes" to "Archives" (I think I saw
>> convo about this)?  And what do folks think about tooltips in the
>> UI? Probably go a long way towards making things easier for
>> newbies...
> 
> Again, mock ups would be helpful that propose contents for these tool
> tips. After that, all it takes is consensus and a developer who turns
> the mocks into real code.

Sweet!  I like to have stuff like this come from the docs, or be linked
to the docs.  Perhaps a glossary?  Having one, and using it to for
generating tooltips (popup/inline) would take some of the pressure off
of the names themselves -- re: recordings vs. workflow instances, etc..

Thanks for the information Tobias!

:Denny

-- 
The goal of life is to make your heartbeat match the beat of the
universe, to match your nature with Nature.
Joseph Campbell
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