It certainly seems that this is something we need to do, so I certainly won't oppose it. Once upon a time, however, it was possible for a curious, but less-technical user to install Matterhorn locally and experiment with scheduling recordings (and see them go thru to Engage), without any additional "work" (e.g. without having to find and follow documentation on how to install a fake capture agent) and without spending money on hardware. I'm not suggesting we need to go back to those days (seems like we can't) but am wondering if it's possible to have (and maintain) a working up-to-date Matterhorn Demo* install that's connected to a real capture agent, so the curious out there has some place to go and do that kind of "checking Matterhorn out"? Is any institution willing to "own" our Demo?
Judy *Our "Demo" is currently at 1.1 On Jan 16, 2012, at 4:10 AM, Rubén Pérez wrote: > +1 . This is a source of problems except for very specific cases. > > 2012/1/16 Ruediger Rolf <[email protected]> > +1 from me too, and I would aim for the 1.3 release with this. > > Rüdiger > > Am 15.01.2012 02:28, schrieb Greg Logan: > > +1 from me. This change needs clear documentation, but I think overall > it will ease support burdens. Are you targetting 1.3 for this change? > > G > > On 1/13/2012 9:01 AM, Tobias Wunden wrote: > Hey there, > > (disclaimer: I am aware that I may get some heat with the following proposal. > However, I still think it's valid to give this a little room for discussion.) > > When shifting views from development to operations, it becomes apparent that > our code setup is targeted at developers, and in principle, there's nothing > wrong with that, especially given that we have been mostly developing for the > past 3 years. However, now that the number of prototype and pilot > installations is starting to grow, all the little things that you need to > keep in mind when you want to do a non-developer setup is hindering our > overall success. > > For this reason, I am going to propose a couple of ideas over the next few > days and weeks, and hope that they will be considered with the goal to ease > adoption, even though it may add a little more setup work for developers here > and there. Overall, a developer will most likely be more patient setting this > up than a potential adopter. > > So here is my first proposal: > > I am proposing to remove the capure agent impl from the default Maven build > profile. The reason is twofold: > > First of all, more and more institutions are buying dedicated Matterhorn > hardware to do their piloting / prototyping. I would much rather add > documentation to the wiki on how to install a fake capture agent than having > to explain to people why in their logs they see a capture agent (that they > did not install) failing to push its capabilities and complaining about > non-existing scheduling data every couple of seconds. > > The second reason is that on many backend machines, there are unit test > failures (e. g. AudioMonitoringConsumerTest) that present a road block for > quite some people on their very first install. > > A Maven profile "capture" already exists, so the change we would make is to > set its "activeByDefault" property to "false", and developers working on the > capture agent would need to change their mvn commandline to include > "-Pcapture". > > I am looking forward to your comments! > > Tobias > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn > > > To unsubscribe please email > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn > > > To unsubscribe please email > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > > > -- > > ________________________________________________ > Rüdiger Rolf, M.A. > Universität Osnabrück - Zentrum virtUOS > Heger-Tor-Wall 12, 49069 Osnabrück > Telefon: (0541) 969-6511 - Fax: (0541) 969-16511 > E-Mail: [email protected] > Internet: www.virtuos.uni-osnabrueck.de > > > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn > > > To unsubscribe please email > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Matterhorn mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opencastproject.org/mailman/listinfo/matterhorn > > > To unsubscribe please email > [email protected] > _______________________________________________
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