Hi Olli,

thanks for that elaborate comment. Again, as of 1.5 there will be an archive 
and therefore a single point of authority for Mediapackages. Up until then, the 
cleanup operation is the way to "solve" disk size limitation issues, and your 
answer seems to indicate that you would *not* want this by default. Correct?

Tobias

On 20.06.2012, at 12:11, Olli Salo <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> in our case (Univ of Helsinki) we want to keep the originals in MH so that we 
> can transcode them thru future workflows when necessary (for example: atm we 
> use flash but I wish we'll be able to convert the vids to h.264 soon). 
> Moreover, we want to make sure that MH's metadata is as accurate as possible 
> and that there would be no orphan media files on the disk. These hopes in 
> mind we also want to give each mediapackage a distinct lifetime, which in our 
> case is 12 months. After 12 months we ask (a shell script) the 
> teacher/professor to extend the lifetime of a mediapackage - if necessary. If 
> the mediapackage's owner doesn't extend the lifetime, the media file will 
> first be hidden and then - some months later - deleted permanently and 
> removed from the disk.
> 
> In my opinion it is _crucial_ that MH keeps track of all the metadata and 
> that the media files are handled by MH. Only this way a cleanup process is 
> able to remove both the unnecessary files and folders and also the metadata 
> from the database. It would be a nightmare if the files and the db would be 
> out of sync.
> 
> Olli
> 
> 
> 
> On 19.6.2012 22:57, Christopher Brooks wrote:
>> We already have a bit of an issue with disk space in MH, so we would
>> end up turning this back on right away.  We archive outside of the
>> system atm.
>> 
>> To me it's no big deal to have it on or off by default, so 0 from me,
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:24:24 +0200
>> Tobias Wunden <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> As part of our default workflow, we enforce the "cleanup" operation,
>>> which is removing all files referenced by a single media package from
>>> the file system in order to save space and prevent disks from filling
>>> up. So far for the pros of making this the default behavior.
>>> 
>>> On the downside, mediapackages get added to the various indexes in
>>> Matterhorn (workflow, episode, search) that can't be used for further
>>> (or repeated) processing since they are basically invalid, having
>>> pointers to files and catalogs that don't exist anymore. This will be
>>> true until we have a working archive in place which unfortunately
>>> does note seem doable until 1.5.
>>> 
>>> In order to make sure people make an active choice to have their
>>> original media and catalogs removed, I #propose to comment out that
>>> operation and add documentation right into the workflow that explains
>>> what happens if a user choses to enable it. But if they don't they
>>> are still by default maintaining a working installation with valid
>>> media packages.
>>> 
>>> I am especially looking for feedback from adopters.
>>> 
>>> Tobias
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