Yes, it was a configuration error. Before switching to Betwixt I 
upgraded to the latest Maverick dist. I previously had Maverick 2.0 
release candidate 1 and didn't adjust the web.xml nor maverick.xml 
appropriately after the upgrade. Ooops.

Betwixt renders Date objects differently than Domify. Domify shows the 
details of the Date object but Beswixt only writes out the date like one 
String in a very long format. I need the hour and minute details but 
this is probably very easy to work around.


/johan



jim moore wrote:

> Yes. maxTransforms worked perfectly for me in friendbook-betwixt.
> 
> --jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Schnitzer,
> Jeff
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:24 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [Mav-user] opt-betwixt
> 
> 
> All good points.  Sure, let everything coexist.
> 
> maxTransforms should work no matter what view/transformation technology
> you use.  Are you defining the servlet init-param properly in your
> web.xml?
> 
>               <!--
>                       This allows an extra query parameter to be added
>                       to any request which halts the transformation
> process
>                       after that number of steps, e.g.
> blah.m?maxTransforms=0
>               -->
>               <init-param>
>                       <param-name>limitTransformsParam</param-name>
>                       <param-value>maxTransforms</param-value>
>               </init-param>
> 
> Jeff Schnitzer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Johan Lundberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:05 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [Mav-user] opt-betwixt
>>
>>I have to agree with Jim on this. Having done the first tests with 
>>opt-betwixt it seems that the Bean -> XML doesn't render identical 
>>XML. Most parts of my app looks fine but the opt-domify compatible XSL
>>
> 
>>templates have in some nodes trouble with the Betwixt XML. I don't 
>>think that it is difficult to adjust the XSL templates but imposing a 
>>XSL template rewrite on other developers might not be a good thing. 
>>Most people seem happy with opt-domify... at the moment.
>>
>>The problem for me right now it to make the 'maxTransforms' to work 
>>for me now that Betwixt has taken over. Any hints would be welcome ;)
>>
>>I have not come to the point where I can test the cyclic reference 
>>graphs, but I'll get back on that when I have tested this.
>>
>>/johan
>>
>>
>>
>>jim moore wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I would vote for letting them co-exist for a while. At least until
>>>
>>betwixt
>>
>>>is officially released. (I'm kind of nervous about deprecating
>>>
>>production
>>
>>>code and replacing it with pre-release code).
>>>
>>>Once jakarta officially releases betwixt, then we can re-examine how
>>>
> 
>>>(or
>>>
>>if)
>>
>>>to deprecate opt-domify.
>>>
>>>As for all of the optional packages, I agree that it seems to be 
>>>getting
>>>
>>a
>>
>>>bit unwieldy (and I'm probably heavily responsible). Maybe we should
>>>
> 
>>>do something like nant (http://nant.sourceforge.net) does and have a
>>>
>>separate
>>
>>>project on sourceforge--mavcontrib or opt-mav or something--for all 
>>>of
>>>
>>the
>>
>>>optional files. Then people new to maverick wouldn't be overwhelmed 
>>>by
>>>
>>all
>>
>>>the optional stuff on the files page, but it would all still be 
>>>pretty readily available should they need it.
>>>
>>>On the other hand, having the optional packages in the maverick 
>>>project probably keeps its sourceforge activity statistics higher 
>>>than they
>>>
>>would
>>
>>>be, so from a public relations point of view, maybe its better to 
>>>keep
>>>
>>them
>>
>>>together.
>>>
>>>--jim
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Schnitzer, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 4:31 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [Mav-user] opt-betwixt
>>>
>>>
>>>Cool!
>>>
>>>I didn't realize that betwixt had a SAX (or stream) generator in it.
>>>
> 
>>>That is really nice.
>>>
>>>Any suggestions for a deprecation strategy for Domify?  Thoughts:
>>>
>>>1. Publish opt-betwixt (or opt-saxify?) and let them coexist. 2. Add
>>>
> 
>>>the betwixt adapter to opt-domify and let them coexist in the same 
>>>package. 3. Replace the domify adapter with the betwixt adapter 
>>>inside opt-domify.
>>>4. ?
>>>
>>>I'm a little worried that people are getting confused by all the 
>>>optional packages.  Putting an explanation in the docs would 
>>>probably help (maybe this weekend).  I'm somewhat partial to putting
>>>
> 
>>>all the "stuff for people interested in using XSL as a templating 
>>>technology" in one package.
>>>
>>>Jeff Schnitzer
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: jim moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:32 PM
>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Subject: [Mav-user] opt-betwixt
>>>>
>>>>Okay a little more playing around and I've gotten a betwixt view
>>>>
>>>>
>>>working.
>>>
>>>
>>>>The trouble seemed to be with their SAXBeanWriter. They have another
>>>>
> 
>>>>BeanWriter that simply writes to a stream. Using this I got it to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>work. I
>>>
>>>
>>>>assume that it's not going to be as efficient as the SAXBeanWriter,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>but it
>>>
>>>
>>>>works. And it should prove a good place holder until their
>>>>
>>>>
>>>SAXBeanWriter
>>>
>>>
>>>>is
>>>>working. Once it is, we should be able to simply update opt-betwixt.
>>>>
> 
>>>>I assume that the xml produced will be the same, so no one should 
>>>>even
>>>>
>>>>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>to
>>>>update their projects.
>>>>
>>>>You can get it here:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.scolamoore.com/jim/opt-betwixt-20020910.zip
>>>>
>>>>It's pretty heavily based on opt-domify, so Jeff and Scott deserve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>much of
>>>
>>>
>>>>the credit.
>>>>There is a friendbook-betwixt in there that works if you want an
>>>>
>>>>
>>>example.
>>>
>>>
>>>>--jim
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "jim moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 12:39 PM
>>>>Subject: [Mav-user] jxv and betwixt views
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>So I spent a little while this morning screwing around with making
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>jxv
>>>
>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>betwixt views. JXV contains DOMSource and SAXSource objects (not 
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>exact
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>names, but close enough) that should be able to passed to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>TransformSteps
>>>
>>>
>>>>>though step.go(source). Unfortunately, both break in different 
>>>>>ways.
>>>>>
>>>>>Betwixt has a SAXBeanWriter object that is created from a SAX 
>>>>>ContentHandler, so theoretically we should be able to use it in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>maverick
>>>
>>>
>>>>as
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>so:
>>>>>
>>>>>TransformStep next = vctx.getNextStep();
>>>>>SAXBeanWriter sbw = new SAXBeanWriter(next.getSAXHandler());
>>>>>try {
>>>>>   sbw.write(vctx.getModel());
>>>>>} catch (SAXException ex) {
>>>>>   throw new ServletException(ex);
>>>>>} catch (IntrospectionException ex) {
>>>>>   throw new ServletException(ex);
>>>>>}
>>>>>next.done();
>>>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately this too blows up with some pretty cryptic errors.
>>>>>
>>>>>The problem with both packages does not seem to be with Maverick 
>>>>>but
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>rather
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>with jxv and betwixt themselves. Neither has release versions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>available
>>>
>>>
>>>>(I
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>had to build both from cvs) and I think for now they are still too
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>unstable
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>to be useful.
>>>>>
>>>>>On the upside though, once they are stable, it shouldn't take too
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>long
>>>
>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>write maverick views for them (it took me about 30 minutes total to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>write
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>both views, basing them on opt-domify).
>>>>>
>>>>>--jim
>>>>>
>>>>>
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