Hahn,Uwe & D�hr, Markus thanks for your quick support. 

I now see the following; Should i be concern on the T4 activity has a cancel 
flag (exclamation mark)

PRDMTS> show active
OK
SERVERDB: PRDMTS

ID   UKT  Win   TASK       APPL Current         Timeout Region     Wait 
          tid   type        pid state          priority cnt try    item 
T4     3  0x864 Utility    2252 Vsuspend (212) !      0 0               713(s)

KNLDIAG now shows
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Date       Time       TID(hex) Typ MsgID Label    Message-Text
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.
2005-01-13 16:44:09      0x3D8     19648 CONNECT  Unreleased connection found, 
T4


Thank you.

Kana

-----Original Message-----
From: Hahn, Uwe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:49 PM
To: Kana; [email protected]
Cc: Chong June Seng
Subject: RE: Monitoring the progress of Restart recovering log from
log_volume from IOSeq: '3273458'


Hello Kana,

first of all switching off the redo log means that only a savepoint (not a 
commit!!!)
makes your transaction persistent. So even if your delete command would be 
committed,
if the redo log was disabled by you and the database crashes for any reason and 
there was no savepoint 
after your delete transaction this transaction is rollbacked.
So I think switching off the redo log is not really a solution for performance 
issues.
...

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:15 AM
>To: "D�hr, Markus ICC-H"; [email protected]
>Cc: Chong June Seng
>Subject: RE: Monitoring the progress of Restart recovering log 
>from log_volume from IOSeq: '3273458'
>
>
>Grateful if you could help interpret these data. 
>Is it recovering from 3273458 -> 3273461 ?

Yes the redo log is processed from iosequence ...58 to ...61
and Markus is right that your aborted open delete transaction will be 
rollbacked for a long time.
The knldiag will only show the progress of the redo read task but not of the 
redo execute tasks.
So the only chance to see something from the rollback is to use the console 
output ("dbmcli ... show active" "dbmcli ... show io") or the knltrace 
(trace_on, trace_flush, trace_prot).
...

>
>2005-01-12 20:33:42      0x864         7 Log      Oldest not 
>saved is ioseq 3254654 @ off 5219
>2005-01-12 20:33:42      0x864         8 Log      First known 
>on LogVolume is ioseq 3206963 @ off 23641
>2005-01-12 20:33:42      0x864         5 Log      Restart from 
>ioseq 3273458 @ off 23639 to ioseq 3273461 @ off 23640
>2005-01-12 20:33:42      0x864        10 Log      Result after 
>checking the log device: 'Ok'
>2005-01-12 20:33:42      0x8D8         3 Restart  recovering 
>log from log_volume from IOSeq: '3273458'
>2005-01-12 20:33:42      0x8D8        42 Log      normal end 
>of log found at off 23640 lastseq 3273461.
>2005-01-12 20:33:42      0x8D8        12 Log      
>last-redo-read#52:TR1515814(1)[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Commit':2005
>0112:201706
>
>
>Now i am begining to get these information. Am I close to 
>going online or is it still a long way. What message should I 
>see further ?
>
This only means that the converter needs pages and therfore savepoints are 
triggered.
These messages tell you that there is a progress but not where you are.
The estimation of Markus that the undo of your delete will take the same time 
as the delete is correct.
As written above there are no default progress messages.

Kind regards
Uwe

>2005-01-13 03:23:02      0x19C        56 Log      Savepoint 
>requested by T10 reason 'FreeBlockManagement' (started).
>2005-01-13 03:23:02      0x8D8         4 Pager    SVP(1) Start 
>Write Data
>2005-01-13 03:23:10      0x8D8         5 Pager    SVP(1) Stop 
>Data IO, Pages: 4275 IO: 2850
>2005-01-13 03:23:10      0x8D8         6 Pager    SVP(2) Wait 
>for last split, TaskId: 35
>2005-01-13 03:23:10      0x8D8         7 Pager    SVP(2) Stop 
>Wait for last split, Pages: 0 IO: 0
>2005-01-13 03:23:10      0x8D8     53070 SAVPOINT B20PREPARE_SVP: 864
>2005-01-13 03:23:10      0x8D8         8 Pager    SVP(3) Start 
>Write Data
>2005-01-13 03:23:11      0x8D8         9 Pager    SVP(3) Stop 
>Data IO, Pages: 11 IO: 9
>2005-01-13 03:23:11      0x8D8        10 Pager    SVP(3) Start 
>Write Converter
>2005-01-13 03:23:11      0x8D8        11 Pager    SVP(3) Stop 
>Converter IO, Pages: 700 IO: 700
>2005-01-13 03:23:11      0x8D8     53071 SAVPOINT B20SVP_COMPLETED: 864
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>2005-01-13 07:51:04      0x19C        56 Log      Savepoint 
>requested by T10 reason 'FreeBlockManagement' (started).
>2005-01-13 07:51:04      0x8D8         4 Pager    SVP(1) Start 
>Write Data
>2005-01-13 07:51:14      0x8D8         5 Pager    SVP(1) Stop 
>Data IO, Pages: 4575 IO: 3425
>2005-01-13 07:51:14      0x8D8         6 Pager    SVP(2) Wait 
>for last split, TaskId: 35
>2005-01-13 07:51:15      0x8D8         7 Pager    SVP(2) Stop 
>Wait for last split, Pages: 12 IO: 12
>2005-01-13 07:51:15      0x8D8     53070 SAVPOINT B20PREPARE_SVP: 865
>2005-01-13 07:51:15      0x8D8         8 Pager    SVP(3) Start 
>Write Data
>2005-01-13 07:51:15      0x8D8         9 Pager    SVP(3) Stop 
>Data IO, Pages: 4 IO: 4
>2005-01-13 07:51:15      0x8D8        10 Pager    SVP(3) Start 
>Write Converter
>2005-01-13 07:51:16      0x8D8        11 Pager    SVP(3) Stop 
>Converter IO, Pages: 699 IO: 699
>2005-01-13 07:51:16      0x8D8     53071 SAVPOINT B20SVP_COMPLETED: 865
>
>
>Thank you
>
>kana
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "D�hr, Markus ICC-H" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:36 AM
>To: Kana; '[email protected]'
>Subject: RE: Monitoring the progress of Restart recovering log from
>log_volume from IOSeq: '3273458'
>
>
>> 0x418 19631 CONNECT Connect req., but UTILITY is busy
>
>I think due to shutting down the instance during the long run it will
>rollback everything, this may take as long as the deletion 
>took (depending
>on the last commit/savepoint).
>
>
>Greetz,
>
>
>SIEGENIA-AUBI KG
>Informationswesen
> 
>i.A.
> 
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>
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