I've answered Mr. Alexey because my stack trace is almost (if not totally - keeping hw, so and runtime differences) equals to the posted. I've not have seen in his mail any reference to the problem occurring during compile time, so I presumed was in runtime. Thanks for the 'isupdatedcolumn' tip. Why not document this function in same chapter that explains triggers on manuals (may be that is already there, and I've not seen too...)?

Best regards,

Edson Richter

Anhaus, Thomas escreveu:

Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter wrote
I had exactly same problem as you. I solved avoiding a very old bug (since SapDB 7.4 days, AFAIK) about recursive triggers.

I already reported this problem (as others did), but it's silent ignored. The first time I faced this problem, I have wasted hours and hours, changing Linux installation (from Fedora to others), tunning, even trying in Windows, changind hard disk (in suspect that it's a virtual memory failure), changing and incresing server memory (from unknowm 256Mb to Kingstong 1Gb), but nothing helped. To check if someone will fix (or at least comment this in Manuals or in the list) in near future, I've posted to the list a "how-to" crash a MaxDB server: just give DBA access to unwarned user, and let him create one recursive trigger. Nobody answered or commented.

Revising every trigger on the system, I've found the problem. I had something like:

create trigger tb_parc_upd on tb_parc for update as {

update tb_parc where usage = usage +1
  where tb_parc.saldo = :old.saldo - :new.pago

}

(the real case is a little bit different - but concept is the same).

As you can see, the above trigger will fire it self again. If we have a function "updated" (like MS SQL Server), the trigger could be written as:

create trigger tb_parc_upd on tb_parc for update as {

if updated(pago)
  update tb_parc where usage = usage +1
    where tb_parc.saldo = :old.saldo - :new.pago

}

where the recursiveness will be avoided. But there is none function like "updated".

Well, returning to your problem, I'll suggest you double check your triggers and procedures. IMHO, they are the main cause for LVM_Allocation errors... Of course, if there is no detectable problem in them, check memory, hard disks, etc.

I expect this save hours for you...

Best regards,

Edson Richter


Alexey Gaidukov escreveu:

Fedora 4. Kernel 2.6.12

Is there the way to prevent this crash? Please help me.


2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11330 COREHAND ABORTING due to
signal 11
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ----> Emergency Stack Back Trace <---- 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (0):0x8222bdb [0xabaf0a74](0x9faa2eec,0xa4531148,0xa453103c,0x891a7d9) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (1):0x83bdad9 [0xabaf0a74](0x9faa2eec,0xa4531148,0xa453103c,0x891a7d9) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (3):0x82b0f8e [0xabaf0ad4](0xabaf49dc,0xa4531038,0x40,0xa4531148) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (5):0x82b0b8b [0xabaf0bb4](0xabaf49dc,0x22,0xabaf0ecc,0x1bb) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (7):0x82b0e7b [0xabaf0bf4](0xabaf49dc,0x21,0x3,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (9):0x82b0bfd [0xabaf0c34](0xabaf49dc,0x1a,0x0,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (11):0x82b0025 [0xabaf0c74](0xabaf49dc,0x19,0x0,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (13):0x82af4da [0xabaf0dd4](0xabaf49dc,0xabaf0ecc,0x19,0x562) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (15):0x82acc91 [0xabaf2174](0xabaf49dc,0xabaf28cc,0x19,0x9faa5988) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (17):0x82a9c1e [0xabaf2884](0xabaf49dc,0xabaf28cc,0xabaf3c2c,0xabaf28ca) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (19):0x82cfaee [0xabaf3c94](0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x101,0x8d20d74) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (21):0x82ce8f3 [0xabaf3d34](0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x0,0xabaf3da4) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (23):0x8419023 [0xabaf3db4](0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x40,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (25):0x841a654 [0xabaf3fa4](0xabaf49dc,0xabaf4000,0xabaf414a,0xabaf412c) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (27):0x841bf83 [0xabaf4184](0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x0,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (29):0x8421d64 [0xabaf42a4](0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x0,0xabaf4338) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (31):0x841faba [0xabaf4454](0xabaf49dc,0x1,0xabaf44cc,0x1) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (33):0x89abaa6 [0xabaf4524](0xabaf49dc,0xabaf49d1,0xabaf454a,0xabaf454b) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (35):0x89ab803 [0xabaf4974](0xabaf49dc,0xabaf49d1,0x1,0xb7e03950) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (37):0x8a37aa4 [0xabaf5f94](0x5015b460,0x5000b31c,0x8ebb0a0,0x8d20d74) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (39):0x8af50fa [0xabaf5fb4](0x3281,0x3,0x8c3e993,0x8c4a27d) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (41):0x8af5049 [0xabaf5fe4](0x500e4320,0x0,0xa95f53a8,0x210b74) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE (43):0x210b74 [0xabaf5ff4](0x0,0x0,0x0,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ----> Register
Dump <----
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ------------------------------- 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ds es 0x0000007b 0x0000007b 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE fs gs 0x00000000 0x00000033 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE trap err 0x0000000e 0x00000004 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE efl ss 0x00010297 0x0000007b 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE edi esi 0x00000110 0x00000220
2005-08-22 14:41:12     0 ERR 11599 BTRACE   eax  ebx  0xa4531148
2005-08-22 14:41:12     0 ERR 11599 BTRACE   ecx  edx  0x00000006
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE esp uesp 0xabaf0a2c 0xabaf0a2c 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ebp eip 0xabaf0a74 0x08222bdb 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE cs cr2 0x00000073 0x2900291b 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ------------------------------- 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE cw - sw - tag 0xffff037f 0xffff0020 0xffffffff 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ipoff - cssel 0x00000000 0x00000000 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE dataoff-datasel 0x00000000 0x00000000 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f00 [0xb800 0xcf4e 0xc6e2 0xd251 - 0x4009] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f01 [0xb800 0xcf4e 0xc6e2 0xd271 - 0x4009] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f02 [0x6823 0xa938 0xf2fb 0x8ad8 - 0x3ff9] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f03 [0xb800 0xb63c 0x6822 0xa938 - 0x4008] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f04 [0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0xe400 - 0x4003] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f05 [0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x8af0 - 0x4011] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f06 [0x0000 0x0000 0x7fc0 0xe4ea - 0x4018] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE f07 [0x0000 0x0000 0xbb80 0x8093 - 0x4017] 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE -------------------------------
2005-08-22 14:41:12     0 ERR 11599 BTRACE   ----> Module List <----
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE |.text Start
|.text End
| Module File Name
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x001bb000 |
0x001d5000
| /lib/ld-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x001d5000 |
0x001d6000
| /lib/ld-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x001d9000 |
0x002fd000
| /lib/libc-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x002fd000 |
0x002ff000
| /lib/libc-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x00305000 |
0x00307000
| /lib/libdl-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x00307000 |
0x00308000
| /lib/libdl-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x0030b000 |
0x0032d000
| /lib/libm-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x0032d000 |
0x0032e000
| /lib/libm-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x00346000 |
0x00354000
| /lib/libpthread-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x00354000 |
0x00355000
| /lib/libpthread-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x006f2000 |
0x006fb000
| /lib/libgcc_s-4.0.1-20050727.so.1
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x008e1000 |
0x008e9000
| /lib/librt-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x008e9000 |
0x008ea000
| /lib/librt-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x00b69000 |
0x00c1a000
| /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.7
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x08048000 |
0x08d1f000
| /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0x9c99b000 |
0x9c9a4000
| /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/lib/dbpinstall.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0xa0ce3000 |
0xa0f0f000
| /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/lib/liboms.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0xb7e27000 |
0xb7e30000
| /lib/libnss_files-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE | 0xb7e30000 |
0xb7e31000
| /lib/libnss_files-2.3.5.so
2005-08-22 14:41:12     0 ERR 11599 BTRACE
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ----> Symbolic
Stack Back
Trace <----
2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 0: 0x08222bdb a061exist_columnname +0x008b 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0a74] (0x9faa2eec,0xa4531148,0xa453103c,0x891a7d9) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 1: 0x083bdad9 a61_search_table +0x0379 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0a74] (0x9faa2eec,0xa4531148,0xa453103c,0x891a7d9) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 2: 0x082b0f8e ak262assign_stmt +0x00ce 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0ad4] (0xabaf49dc,0xa4531038,0x40,0xa4531148) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 3: 0x082b0b8b ak262compile +0x03cb 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0bb4] (0xabaf49dc,0x22,0xabaf0ecc,0x1bb) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 4: 0x082b0e7b ak262TryCatchBlock +0x010b 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0bf4] (0xabaf49dc,0x21,0x3,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 5: 0x082b0bfd ak262compile +0x043d 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0c34] (0xabaf49dc,0x1a,0x0,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 6: 0x082b0025 ak262StoreStmtAndComplile +0x04d5 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0c74] (0xabaf49dc,0x19,0x0,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 7: 0x082af4da ak262trigger_code +0x07da 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf0dd4] (0xabaf49dc,0xabaf0ecc,0x19,0x562) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 8: 0x082acc91 ak262create_trigger +0x09a1 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf2174] (0xabaf49dc,0xabaf28cc,0x19,0x9faa5988) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 9: 0x082a9c1e a262trigger_semantic +0x036e 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf2884] (0xabaf49dc,0xabaf28cc,0xabaf3c2c,0xabaf28ca) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 10: 0x082cfaee ak35call_semantik +0x064e 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf3c94] (0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x101,0x8d20d74) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 11: 0x082ce8f3 a35_asql_statement2 +0x0543 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf3d34] (0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x0,0xabaf3da4) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 12: 0x08419023 ak92not_only_execute +0x0473 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf3db4] (0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x40,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 13: 0x0841a654 ak92analyze_messagetype +0x07c4 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf3fa4] (0xabaf49dc,0xabaf4000,0xabaf414a,0xabaf412c) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 14: 0x0841bf83 a92_mode_analyzer +0x0263 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf4184] (0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x0,0x0) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 15: 0x08421d64 ak93one_command +0x0ea4 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf42a4] (0xabaf49dc,0x0,0x0,0xabaf4338) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 16: 0x0841faba a93_user_commands +0x047a 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf4454] (0xabaf49dc,0x1,0xabaf44cc,0x1) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 17: 0x089abaa6 _Z7SQLTaskR20tak_all_command_globRhb +0x0086 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf4524] (0xabaf49dc,0xabaf49d1,0xabaf454a,0xabaf454b) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 18: 0x089ab803 _Z11Kernel_MainR13RTETask_ITask +0x0313 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf4974] (0xabaf49dc,0xabaf49d1,0x1,0xb7e03950) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 19: 0x08a37aa4 RTETask_TaskMain +0x0064 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf5f94] (0x5015b460,0x5000b31c,0x8ebb0a0,0x8d20d74) 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 20: 0x08af50fa _Z23en88_CallKernelTaskMainP9TASK_TYPE +0x00aa 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:12 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf5fb4] (0x3281,0x3,0x8c3e993,0x8c4a27d) 2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE 21: 0x08af5049 en88_CallCoroutineKernelTaskMain +0x0029 2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE /opt/V76_00_16/MaxDB_DEV/usr/pgm/kernel 2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE Frameinfo [0xabaf5fe4] (0x500e4320,0x0,0xa95f53a8,0x210b74) 2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE ----> End of Stack Back Trace <---- 2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE analysing LVCMem_Allocator_001
2005-08-22 14:41:13     0 ERR 11599 BTRACE
2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE no problems detected in LVCMem_Allocator_001 2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE analysing LVCMem_Allocator_002
2005-08-22 14:41:13     0 ERR 11599 BTRACE
2005-08-22 14:41:13 0 ERR 11599 BTRACE no problems detected in LVCMem_Allocator_002 2005-08-22 14:41:14 0 ERR 12006 DBCRASH Kernel exited without core and exit status 0x2f00 2005-08-22 14:41:14 0 ERR 12008 DBCRASH Kernel exited due to reentered signal handler 2005-08-22 14:41:17 ___ Stopping GMT 2005-08-22 05:41:17 7.6.00 Build 016-000-000-
000
2005-08-22 14:42:05 --- Starting GMT 2005-08-22 05:42:05 7.6.00 Build 016-000-000-
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Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter
MGR Informática Ltda.
Fones: 3347-0446 / 9259-2993



I don't think that Alexey has the same problem. The problem with recursive 
triggers
occurs at runtime of the trigger whereas the crash above happens when the 
trigger
is compiled. Besides the trace back above shows that no recursion is involved.

We are currently working on the problem of recursive triggers. The problem is 
that
the stack of the task becomes overwritten by the endless recursion. We will
avoid that by a check, that ensures that enough stack is available for the next
recursion. This solution has the disadvantage that the recursion may be stopped 
a
little bit too early, but that's much better than a database crash.

Besides in the meantime the 'updated' function has been implemented. The function is available as isupdatedcolumn(<column name>).

Best Regards,
Thomas


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MGR Informática Ltda.
Fones: 3347-0446 / 9259-2993


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