If you KNOW the difference between 'change' and 'modify' then TELL, instead of just pointing to the great-books-of wisdom.
I'd like to castrate the 'date/time-people' of linux. When ever I want to reset the RTC, I have to use BIOS or DOS. Liinux wants me to first analyse what Julius Ceasar had for breakfast! BTW how's the battery consumption on the ARM net-book? == Chris Glur. Perhaps: the name 'changed' vs. the contents 'modified' Contents-changed is IMO the most usefull sort order, which corresponds to a stak-VM, which corresponds to the natural way of working by task-decomposing, which is the natural/best way to do tasks in real life. On 7/31/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Send mc mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Quitting by closing xterm window (Dario Niedermann) > 2. What is the difference between "Change time" and "Modify > time"? (Theodore Kilgore) > 3. Re: Quitting by closing xterm window (Eric Gillespie) > 4. Re: What is the difference between "Change time" and "Modify > time"? (Andrew Borodin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:51:47 +0200 > From: Dario Niedermann <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Quitting by closing xterm window > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Will mc exit cleanly if I close the terminal window where it is running, > or do I have to press the old F10 ? > > TIA... > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:10:41 -0500 (CDT) > From: Theodore Kilgore <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: What is the difference between "Change time" and "Modify > time"? > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > The question in the header refers, of course, to the options found under > "Sort Order." Frankly, I can not tell the difference between the meanings > of these two options -- unless perhaps I would take a deep dive into the > source code. The man page does not seem to provide enlightenment on this > point, either. > > I have found out that the two options can sometimes act slightly > differently, perhaps depending on distro or hardware, or something even > more mysterious. > > The usual occasion on which I would wish to sort files by date instead of > by name occurs when I would connect to some repository and I want to get > the most recent files in a certain directory. I have always used "modify > time" to do the sorting, and it worked perfectly. But recently I tried to > do this using an ARM netbook. The "modify time" then produced no change in > the listing order of the files at all. But when I tried "change time" > instead, I got the desired results. Now, as well as being built on ARM > architecture, the netbook is also running a different distro from the rest > of my machines. Thus, the important factor might possibly be the > configuration of the distro, or it could be due to some quirk of the ARM > architecture. > > However, I still can not tell what the difference between "Modify time" > and "Change time" was supposed to be in the first place, nor, for that > matter, why both of these are separately listed as options when their > names seem to mean the same thing with synonymous words. It seems to me to > be something which is either redundant or confusing, or possibly both. > Therefore, I thought it might be good to ask. > > Theodore Kilgore > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:27:35 +1200 > From: Eric Gillespie <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Quitting by closing xterm window > Message-ID: > <CAHWye86KffwVxwC3S-xABBmp=y3PtKeqT8XpEo=gs+1igkn...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On 31 July 2011 04:51, Dario Niedermann <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Will mc exit cleanly if I close the terminal window where it is running, >> or do I have to press the old F10 ? >> >> > It's probably better to hit F10, as that lets mc do whatever tidying up it > needs to do first, unlike closing the xterm, which immediately terminates > mc. That's merely my opinion. > > Regards, Dr Smokey. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://mail.gnome.org/archives/mc/attachments/20110731/7312e7e9/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 13:05:14 +0400 > From: Andrew Borodin <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: What is the difference between "Change time" and "Modify > time"? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=koi8-r > > On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 14:10:41 -0500 (CDT) Theodore Kilgore wrote: >> > > To answer your question, please read the stat(2) man page and find > description of change time (ctime) and modify time (mtime) > > Probably, the built-in help should be more verbose about sort orders. > > -- > Andrew > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > mc mailing list > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc > > > End of mc Digest, Vol 87, Issue 15 > ********************************** > _______________________________________________ mc mailing list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/mc
