We archive in TIFF and using PS we derive lossless JPEG2000 for  
dissemination from an Aware server. Because of a lack of browser  
support the end-user sees a jpeg derived from the lossless JPEG2000  
file. Perhaps a nicer JPEG2000 software package is "Djatoka" (http:// 
www.dlib.org/dlib/september08/chute/09chute.html), which is open  
source and customizable.

There are certainly advantages to archiving with lossless JPEG2000  
(definitely a storage space savings), but so far TIFF has a  
reputation as a robust archival format supported by virtually all  
capture devices. I don't think JPEG2000 is going away, it's just not  
leaps and bounds better than TIFF as an archival format.

Roel

Roel Mu?oz
Digital Projects Photographer
Princeton University
Firestone Library
1 Washington Road
Princeton, NJ 08544
(609) 258-8010
fax (609) 258-4105

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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:39:56 -0500
> From: Julie Riley OpenEdit <julie at openedit.org>
> Subject: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
> To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
> Message-ID: <493467BC.80007 at openedit.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi,
>
> I came across Ari's blog regarding open source digital asset  
> management
> or the lack thereof... I'd like to introduce our open source software,
> OpenEdit DAM. http://www.openeditDAM.com
>
> OpenEdit is a JAVA based 100% pure web DAM solution and can be run on
> any platform. We have been working with corporations and organizations
> in need of DAM for several years which has allowed us to develop a
> robust digital asset management solution.
>
> OpenEdit DAM users include single users as well as those needing an
> enterprise-wide DAM system. OpenEdit DAM allows you to manage and  
> share
> all of your digital files, you can upload, download, search, share,
> etc., it's a very feature rich application.
>
> OpenEdit is free to download, install and use, technical support is  
> free
> via our online user forum.
>
> Please take a look at OpenEdit and let me know what you think!
>
> Regards,
>
> Julie Riley
> OpenEdit
> http://www.openeditDAM.com
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 19:21:42 -0500
> From: "Ari Davidow" <aridavidow at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
>       <747cfaf50812011621gc9b0952tef3d613488686c56 at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Cool! Anyone out there using this? How well does it meet your needs?
> What do you like about it? Would you recommend it to others?
>
> Thanks,
> ari
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Julie Riley OpenEdit  
> <julie at openedit.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I came across Ari's blog regarding open source digital asset  
>> management
>> or the lack thereof... I'd like to introduce our open source  
>> software,
>> OpenEdit DAM. http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>
>> OpenEdit is a JAVA based 100% pure web DAM solution and can be run on
>> any platform. We have been working with corporations and  
>> organizations
>> in need of DAM for several years which has allowed us to develop a
>> robust digital asset management solution.
>>
>> OpenEdit DAM users include single users as well as those needing an
>> enterprise-wide DAM system. OpenEdit DAM allows you to manage and  
>> share
>> all of your digital files, you can upload, download, search, share,
>> etc., it's a very feature rich application.
>>
>> OpenEdit is free to download, install and use, technical support  
>> is free
>> via our online user forum.
>>
>> Please take a look at OpenEdit and let me know what you think!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Julie Riley
>> OpenEdit
>> http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:24:33 -0500
> From: "Fournier, Melissa" <melissa.fournier at yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
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>
> On the same topic, has anyone else out there looked at, or is  
> using, ResourceSpace open source DAM (http://www.montala.net/ 
> resourcespace.php) ?
>
> Melissa
>
> Melissa Gold Fournier
> Associate Museum Registrar
> YALE CENTER FOR BRITISH ART
>
> melissa.fournier at yale.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On  
> Behalf Of Ari Davidow
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:22 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
>
> Cool! Anyone out there using this? How well does it meet your needs?
> What do you like about it? Would you recommend it to others?
>
> Thanks,
> ari
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Julie Riley OpenEdit  
> <julie at openedit.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I came across Ari's blog regarding open source digital asset  
>> management
>> or the lack thereof... I'd like to introduce our open source  
>> software,
>> OpenEdit DAM. http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>
>> OpenEdit is a JAVA based 100% pure web DAM solution and can be run on
>> any platform. We have been working with corporations and  
>> organizations
>> in need of DAM for several years which has allowed us to develop a
>> robust digital asset management solution.
>>
>> OpenEdit DAM users include single users as well as those needing an
>> enterprise-wide DAM system. OpenEdit DAM allows you to manage and  
>> share
>> all of your digital files, you can upload, download, search, share,
>> etc., it's a very feature rich application.
>>
>> OpenEdit is free to download, install and use, technical support  
>> is free
>> via our online user forum.
>>
>> Please take a look at OpenEdit and let me know what you think!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Julie Riley
>> OpenEdit
>> http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:46:43 -0500
> From: "Fournier, Melissa" <melissa.fournier at yale.edu>
> Subject: [MCN-L] JPEG2000
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
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> I'd like to throw out a quick query to the list about JPEG2000.   
> Although there is mounting support of the format as a preservation  
> standard, in terms of access it appears that it is still not widely  
> supported in consumer applications and viewing applications such as  
> browsers.  Does anyone see this changing?  Other thoughts pro/con?
>
> Melissa
>
> Melissa Gold Fournier
> Associate Museum Registrar
> YALE CENTER FOR BRITISH ART
> melissa.fournier at yale.edu
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:50:04 -0500
> From: "David Dwiggins" <dwiggins at simmons.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
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>
> I've played with ResourceSpace a bit, and have been monitoring the
> development mailing list for the last few months. I think it looks
> like a really promising project. The interface is very nice, and the
> code and data structures behind it seem straightforward enough that it
> can easily be modified and customized. I think there are a few
> "industrial strength" features I'd like to see added (like easily
> accessible permanent URLs for resources, for example.)  But by and
> large I could see it working well -- and am considering the
> possibility of adopting it, at least on a trial basis.
>
> I particularly like some of the features it has for allowing users to
> group resources into sets and then share the resulting sets with
> others.
>
> The original developer is very active on the mailing list, and is
> hiring out for consulting gigs to add features. He's also running a
> hosted installation of the software for those who want that -- but
> unlike some pseudo-open source products, he seems very willing to
> accept contributions from the public, and the software is pretty easy
> to get going on your own as well. So it seems like a fairly good open
> source model.
>
> I'd be interested in hearing from anyone else who has looked at this.
>
> -David Dwiggins
> Systems Librarian/Archivist
> Historic New England
> ddwiggins at historicnewengland dot org
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Fournier, Melissa
> <melissa.fournier at yale.edu> wrote:
>> On the same topic, has anyone else out there looked at, or is  
>> using, ResourceSpace open source DAM (http://www.montala.net/ 
>> resourcespace.php) ?
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>> Melissa Gold Fournier
>> Associate Museum Registrar
>> YALE CENTER FOR BRITISH ART
>>
>> melissa.fournier at yale.edu
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On  
>> Behalf Of Ari Davidow
>> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:22 PM
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
>>
>> Cool! Anyone out there using this? How well does it meet your needs?
>> What do you like about it? Would you recommend it to others?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ari
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Julie Riley OpenEdit  
>> <julie at openedit.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I came across Ari's blog regarding open source digital asset  
>>> management
>>> or the lack thereof... I'd like to introduce our open source  
>>> software,
>>> OpenEdit DAM. http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>>
>>> OpenEdit is a JAVA based 100% pure web DAM solution and can be  
>>> run on
>>> any platform. We have been working with corporations and  
>>> organizations
>>> in need of DAM for several years which has allowed us to develop a
>>> robust digital asset management solution.
>>>
>>> OpenEdit DAM users include single users as well as those needing an
>>> enterprise-wide DAM system. OpenEdit DAM allows you to manage and  
>>> share
>>> all of your digital files, you can upload, download, search, share,
>>> etc., it's a very feature rich application.
>>>
>>> OpenEdit is free to download, install and use, technical support  
>>> is free
>>> via our online user forum.
>>>
>>> Please take a look at OpenEdit and let me know what you think!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Julie Riley
>>> OpenEdit
>>> http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum  
>>> Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu)
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 09:46:10 -0600
> From: "Terry Jackson" <jackson at aaslh.org>
> Subject: [MCN-L] AASLH Offers Online Learning Opportunities in January
> To: <mcn-l at mcn.edu>, "'Bethany Hawkins'" <hawkins at aaslh.org>
> Message-ID: <00a701c95495$199bf000$4cd3d000$@org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> AASLH Offers Online Learning Opportunities in January
>
> AASLH is offering two online learning opportunities in the month of  
> January.
>
> Basics of Archives Online Course - The course is scheduled for  
> January 5 ?
> February 6.  The Basics of Archives was developed in cooperation with
> COSHRC, the Michigan Historical Center, the New York State  
> Archives, and the
> Ohio Historical Society, and with a grant from IMLS. Participants  
> proceed at
> their own pace through this online workshop that covers the basics of
> archives management and practices including acquiring collections,
> processing, housing and preservation, and providing access.  Cost  
> for the
> workshop is $85 for members and $150 for nonmembers.  The deadline for
> registration is December 31.  For more information or to register,  
> go to
> www.aaslh.org/basicsofarchives.htm
>
> Going Green Webinar ? This three-session webinar is scheduled for  
> January 8,
> 15, and 22 at 1 p.m.-2:15 p.m. eastern time.  Led by Sarah Brophy,  
> co-author
> of The Green Museum: A Primer on Environmental Practice from  
> AltaMira Press,
> will help you explore ways to make your historical organization
> environmentally friendly.  Topic will include green events, energy
> efficiency, and what to consider when making decisions on how green  
> to be.
> Cost for the webinar is $145 for members and $210 for nonmembers.   
> There is
> a 10% discount for groups of 5-14.  The deadline for registration  
> is January
> 2.  For more information or to register, go to www.aaslh.org/ 
> GoingGreen.htm.
>
>
> Please contact Bethany Hawkins, Program Associate at  
> hawkins at aaslh.org or
> 615-320-3203 if you have any questions about these or other upcoming
> workshops.
>
> Terry Jackson
> American Association for State and Local History
> Project Coordinator
> 1717 Church St.
> Nashville, TN? 37203
> 615-320-3203
> jackson at aaslh.org
> =========================================
> So you think you missed out on the Bookshelf?
> Not true! The third round will run Jan 5 until Mar 9, 2009.
> Mark your calendar! Don't miss out on this great
> resource from IMLS and AASLH. For more
> information, visit www.aaslh.org/Bookshelf.
> =========================================
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 14:16:41 -0500
> From: "Ari Davidow" <aridavidow at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] JPEG2000
> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
>       <747cfaf50812021116o11cfefb8q5d63a9a7867ddce7 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> JPEG2000 doesn't solve any problems experienced by web users, nor does
> it provide anything extra for print. It =does= solve myriad problems
> for archivists (but requires some extra investment to take advantage
> of those solutions--you really need a JPEG2000 server), so I don't see
> it going away--perhaps slowly getting some support in tools, and
> slowly replacing TIFF as the archival format of choice.
>
> ari
>
> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Fournier, Melissa
> <melissa.fournier at yale.edu> wrote:
>> I'd like to throw out a quick query to the list about JPEG2000.   
>> Although there is mounting support of the format as a preservation  
>> standard, in terms of access it appears that it is still not  
>> widely supported in consumer applications and viewing applications  
>> such as browsers.  Does anyone see this changing?  Other thoughts  
>> pro/con?
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>> Melissa Gold Fournier
>> Associate Museum Registrar
>> YALE CENTER FOR BRITISH ART
>> melissa.fournier at yale.edu
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:44:41 -0600
> From: "John Bedard" <jbedard at artsmia.org>
> Subject: [MCN-L] NTEN - Non-Profit Technology Network?
> To: "mcn LISTSERV" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID: <49353BC8.50A4.0031.0 at artsmia.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> Does anybody have experience with NTEN, Non-Profit Technology  
> Network?  If so, is there anything it offers that MCN does not? Or  
> any recommendations about joining or not joining?
>
>
>
> John R. Bedard
> Director of Information Projects and Services
> The Minneapolis Institute of Arts
> 2400 Third Avenue South
> Minneapolis, MN 55404
> Phone: 612-870-3268
> Fax: 612-870-3004
> Email: JBedard at artsmia.org
> www.artsmia.org
> www.artsconnected.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:00:59 -0700
> From: "Nilsen, Dianne" <dnilsen at ccp.library.arizona.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
> To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
> Message-ID:
>       <26C6B0CCB6892843849BE72624C9D12E0485029F at medusa.library.arizona.edu>
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>
> Dear Janice,
>
> The list below was cut from a report I created last Spring.  This may
> help explain some of the drivers that influence our digitization
> process.  I hope this helps.
>
> Best,
> Dianne
>
>
> CCP Priorities for Imaging Collections:
>
> The Center's bi-monthly curatorial team meetings provide a forum where
> collections are discussed by knowledgeable staff and prioritized for
> scanning.  The photographers noted below do not represent all the
> Center's collections that have been digitized to date, but the list
> provides an example of driving forces that influence how CCP  
> prioritizes
> the scanning of collections.  (Note some bodies of work will naturally
> fall into more than one of the driving forces noted below which adds
> weight to the priority)
>
>
> 1. Core Archives:  (100% completed)                   
> Ansel Adams
> Harry Callahan
> Frederick Sommer (check new acquisitions)
> Wynn Bullock
> Aaron Siskind
>
> 2. Archive/Donor Relations/Contracts:
> Milton Rogovin (100%)
> Rosalind Solomon (80% completed)
> Brett Weston  (95% completed)
> Alma Lavenson (not fully accessioned)
>                               
> 3. Copyrights Owned or Administered:  
> Edward Weston (100%)
> John Gutmann (100%)   
> Louise Dahl-Wolfe (100%)
> Lola Alvarez Bravo (100%)
>
> 4. Historical Significance:
> W. Eugene Smith (100%)
> Lee Friedlander (100%)
> Wright Morris (100%)
> Walker Evans (100%)
> Tina Modotti (100%)
> Robert Heinecken (75%)
> Ralph Gibson
>
>
> 5. Other Drivers influencing Imaging Priorities
> Exhibitions
> Publications
> Rights and Reproductions requests
> Outgoing Loans
> New Acquisitions
> Research fellows
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On  
> Behalf Of
> Ari Davidow
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:22 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] open source OpenEdit DAM
>
> Cool! Anyone out there using this? How well does it meet your needs?
> What do you like about it? Would you recommend it to others?
>
> Thanks,
> ari
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Julie Riley OpenEdit
> <julie at openedit.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I came across Ari's blog regarding open source digital asset
> management
>> or the lack thereof... I'd like to introduce our open source  
>> software,
>> OpenEdit DAM. http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>
>> OpenEdit is a JAVA based 100% pure web DAM solution and can be run on
>> any platform. We have been working with corporations and  
>> organizations
>> in need of DAM for several years which has allowed us to develop a
>> robust digital asset management solution.
>>
>> OpenEdit DAM users include single users as well as those needing an
>> enterprise-wide DAM system. OpenEdit DAM allows you to manage and
> share
>> all of your digital files, you can upload, download, search, share,
>> etc., it's a very feature rich application.
>>
>> OpenEdit is free to download, install and use, technical support is
> free
>> via our online user forum.
>>
>> Please take a look at OpenEdit and let me know what you think!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Julie Riley
>> OpenEdit
>> http://www.openeditDAM.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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