David:

>| I had understood that making a recording from a digital source would
>| *always* set the SCMS copy status, thereafter allowing only one digital
>| copy.  This seems to break that rule.
>
>That wasn't the rule.  Yes, recording will always set the SCMS bits, but it
>won't necessarily set them to limit the generations.  A digital transfer to
>an SCMS-compliant device of SCMS-unlimited material should produce an SCMS-
>unlimited copy.  There will still be generational loss from ATRAC, but that's
>all.

OK, I think I understand better now. 

a) If I make an analogue recording to my hard disk it has no SCMS bits set,
or is classed as 'unlimited digital copy'.
b) If I make the same analogue recording to my MD the SCMS bit is set to
'digital copy once'.

What surprised me was that the 'unlimited digital copy' from a) was
preserved when subsequently copying between MDs.

The SBLive seems to be "SCMS-compliant" and does apply SCMS to recordings,
if I make a digital recording from CD to hard disk I can copy the resulting
wav file to MD but subsequently copying from that MD gives 'NO COPY', so it
is acting in the same way as the MD.

It differs from the MD in that it establishes 'unlimited digital copy' for
analogue recordings. In my view the SBLive! is doing it correctly and the
MD is not. Why shouldn't someone be allowed to make multiple digital copies
of their own analogue sourced material? 

I have to confess to some naivety here, I hadn't appreciated the
generational loss digital to digital MD copy. In my head I imagined that
the MD knew it was another MD sending data and just copied the data, then I
thought about it some more. Doh! What's missing of course is a genuine MD
to MD copy, faster than realtime with track and/or disk name data sent.


LAS:

>I still don't see the point in wanting to make a digital copy of an MD that
>was, say, digitally copied from a CD.  Don't forget every time that you
make a
>copy it goes through a compression/expansion cycle.
>

I wasn't talking of copying digitally sourced material (CDs), just analogue
stuff recorded off the radio straight onto hard disk.

Cheers,
John


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