On Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:11:26 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > If not money, then something else. In essence money is just another
symptom
> > of what we crave. There are few people that simply like money,
intrinsically
> > - by that I mean simply spend adoring hours, gazing lovingly at stacks
of
> > cash.
>
> Then you may not know many millionaires. I know some that will hound you
for a
> penny. No they don't physically fondle the money, but they do almost the
same
> thing by constantly checking their investments and bank accounts.
But what fuels this ultimate obsession - the desire to know about how much
they have - is it intrinsic, or perhaps some other motivation. What does the
money *mean* to them?
> These people live below their means (that's their right, of course) and
would
> rather know that they are accumulating more and more money then having a
really
> expensive home or car. I know several people who fit that description.
There's almost always a causitive reason IME - in general we simply haven't
dug deep enough to find it. I'm sure there may be the odd individual that
likes money, simply for money's sake - but even then there's probably some
deep underlying reason - I can't believe it's bio-chemical, I feel it must
be some conditioning or some underlying motivation.
> There are certain values that society set as to what is wrong and right.
In
> order to be tried in court you have to "know the difference between
"right and
> wrong ".
"Ignorance is no defence in law..."
> "Equally the converse that merely your actions define us, too."
>
> Here I do believe that we should be judged by our actions. Actions that
are
> commonly accepted by society. NOT BY ANY RELIGION!
What I meant was that there are some people who do things simply for effect
- sometimes high profile things - however I believe this to not always be
representative.
> > I would argue that it's us, as individuals. I couldn't give a huh over
what
> > society thinks I should believe is beautiful or ugly.
>
> Yes. But you are in the minority here. Just like me and beer or sports.
Most
> people place great importance (I'm not saying this is right or good, just
a
> fact) on "beauty". Our society considers fat ugly. Do you realize how
much
> money people spend each year trying not to be fat.
I do - and for the main - they are fools. For the vast majority of people
who are fat, and don't want to be, there are no deep, dark secrets - or
wonder cures. I say this as somebody who's been involved in health / fitness
for around 15 years.
> Not because it is unhealthy (which it may be in certain cases) but
because it is
> "ugly".
The same could be said for fashion, and cosmetics. People still make
choices, though.
> > > Then there is the "casting couch". I wonder how people (both male
as
> > well as
> > > female) got their big break by.......well you know.
> >
> > Indeed - but they chose to be actors - they could have chosen another
> > profession.
>
> So you are saying that if you choose to be an actor, you have to degrade
> yourself to get work??
No I'm saying that in general, people make value judgements on what they do.
How many people actually have a gun to their head forcing them to be an
actor? How many of these could make a reasonable living, by other means?
> I really don't think that is what you meant to say. In
> order to be given the opportunity to act you also have to be a
prostitute?? You
> can't mean what you said.
I think you've seen something that wasn't there, all I meant to say is that
they chose to be actors - warts and all. If they don't like, or are not
willing to endure the warts, they could equally choose to do something else.
Cheers
Neil
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