[replying to two posts to save space]
> > Not meaning to offend but please stop posting with coupons for some
> > US-based (and US-only) online shopping company. I'm just guessing here, but
> > the number of US-based list subscribers is probably lower than you think
> > and the number of those that actually care about the coupons will be
> > significantly lower.
>
>I think that you are wrong about that.
Any thought go into that, or is it a generic Yank "Rest of the world? We
ARE the world!" comment? :-) I said I was guessing, and I notice a lot of
non-US email addresses. Remember too that .com/.org/.net don't belong to
the US - people living in many other countries use them too (in fact, the
MD-L is hosted at the London-based amulation.com). To all these non-US
people, posts about coupons are useless if they couldn't use them anyway.
> > As someone else suggested, set up a separate list of
> > your own for those that _want_ to recieve your coupon mails and leave the
> > MD-L for actual MD discussion.
>
>It will never happen. This is a non censored list (at least that's what
>Rick W.
>recent told me). If you see Peter's name when you receive your e mail, just
>press the delete button. Also, isn't there a way to filter out e mail
>addresses
>you don't want to receive on many browses?
It was a _suggestion_ for Peter to sort out a method that would be better
for all parties - those on the MD-L that don't want to get coupon mailings
every other day won't, those that want them do. It wasn't meant to be read
as an intention of censorship - the list is unmoderated and so it should
stay. Doing what you suggest (filtering by address) _would_ mean that many
people stop reading what Peter has to say, which would be a shame.
>I disagree and encourage Peter to let us know when there are real super deals
>happening like $15 off on $25 and NO SHIPPING.
>You may have some magic source for getting blanks, but I know I don't and
>when I
>can get 80 minute blanks for less than $1.40, I want to know about it.
So why not find out via a separate list or just by going to his coupon page?
>If people want to complain about things that are not available in their
>country
>fine. It was just a minor inconvenience, but if people want to be like
>that, I
>am sick and tired of hearing about all of the specials that they are
>running at
>Riches or what ever it is called, in the UK.
I'll explain the reasons for my "complaint" (well, more of an informal
suggestion to change something):
- The number of coupon posts has gone up significantly - over the last 2
weeks, there's been one every other day.
- These coupons are from, and for, a commercial company that Peter is
financially involved with (at least, that's what I infer from him having a
"store" there), which goes against the non-commercial nature of lists like
this.
It's pretty simple - Peter sends his coupons mails to as many people as
possible, some of them buy stuff from him via the coupons, he makes
money. When a list member points out a particularly good deal on
something, they're not profiting from it. Incidentally, the last time
Richer Sounds was mentioned on the MD-l was back in July, and that was a
request for comments on a Pioneer unit that they were selling (and that's
sold worldwide). The last post about an offer they were doing was 7th June.
There's also a separate UK MD list, where such country-specific stuff gets
discussed.
As I've said to Peter before - the best way to promote your business on
non-commercial community lists is to follow the Core Sound example; act as
a normal list member and contribute with sound advice wherever possible.
Post from a company email account and include a short sig with your URL and
maybe a line with your current offer, but leave it at that. Associate your
company with in-depth knowledge and sound advice and you'll have no
problems. Spamming coupons every other day, like constant TV ads, are the
quickest way to annoy people.
I don't think that any of what I've said sounds unreasonable - I just think
that Peter's system would work a lot better if he was in direct contact
with those that _want_ to receive his coupon mails.
--
Simon
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