Hi,

OK, I understand that Sony sometimes follows strange politics, but...
What I can't understand is the OpenMG thing. I just downloaded the
atrac3.zip and the sample wave files from minidisc.org and found out
that it has _NO_ encryption implemented. Why would someone encode
his/her wav files to Atrac3 with the OpenMG software when you can
do it with the simple atrac3.acm file?

BTW, I just did the most obvious thing, i.e. copied the MD to the
computer, extracted the raw atarc3 data, put an valid (0x0270)
wav-header in front and doubleclicked on it, and .... tadaa...
it played! Plain, simple and easy....and in fact strange!


"Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor" wrote:

> Right. I received the "20 bytes" number from Sony after publishing
> an initially incorrect guess at the number of bytes needed to produce
> silence in ATRAC1.

Thanks for the doublechecking. I have to correct my previous mail.
It is of course 14 bytes (=2+10+2) you need for producing silence.
Therefore you waste "only" 6 bytes per SG -- still almost 5MB per
MiniDisc.


> My guess is that 132kbps is really just the average, and that the
> extra "unusused" space is actually slop space for the Huffman
> encoder. Since Huffman coding exploits redundancy in the information
> to be encoded, some signals will require more space than others (just
> as with .zip files).

No, 132kbps is constant (now that I found out).

> > ps: last Q: Does anyone know why the very first ATRAC coder [ATRAC1 Version1 
>(MZ-1)]
> > sounded soo bad. (I know the answer, but before I am going to post it I want to 
>have
> > your thoughts).
>
> The 16 bit math?

:-) That I don't know, but the ATRAC1v1 encoder had no block switching
implemented (just the encoder), i.e. all blocks are long blocks. I found
that interesting.

wolfgang




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