On 04/10/2013 08:11 AM, A Haris wrote:

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Harap tidak membajak thread.
Kalau posting topik baru bukan dengan cara mereply mail yang berasal
dari milis lalu diganti subject dan isinya, cara itu disebut membajak
topik orang lain (thread hijacking).
Selalu gunakan menu compose new message.

http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#threading

When starting a new thread don't just reply to a message sent by someone
else and clear the subject line. Not all e-mail and news clients behave
like yours and will thread messages correctly based on the
"Message-ID:", "In-Reply-To:" and "References:" headers embedded in the
messages. Only programs which don't comply with Internet standards sort
messages by subject and call that "threading". When you simply change
the subject of a message, all of the threading information remains
intact and your new "thread" simply continues at the end of the old one.
This is called thread hijacking.

By doing this, you're shooting yourself in the foot twice over. First of
all, people following a thread don't want to see unrelated messages
cropping up in the middle of it. The most complacent will just delete
your message without reading it, others will killfile you, some having
complained to you asking you to learn how to post. Secondly, those who
aren't interested in the hijacked thread and who have set their programs
to ignore it won't even see your message.

If you want to start a new thread then use your mailer's/newsreader's
"New Message" function. This will start a fresh thread of your own
without any traces of previous threads.

Lihat caranya compose new message
http://office.microsoft.com/en-001/outlook-help/create-an-e-mail-message-HA010117953.aspx
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> Saya sudah coba berhenti  dengan mengirim ke
> mdaemon-l-unsubscr...@dutaint.com, dan Rekan kami coba berlangganan dengan
> kirim mail ke mdaemon-l-subscr...@dutaint.com, tapi gagal

Itu karena setting MDaemon Anda salah, pakai IP address untuk nama host.

Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] Session 410137; child 0001
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] Accepting SMTP connection from
[117.102.94.107:11027] to [203.130.233.4:25]
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] --> 220 dutaint.com ESMTP MDaemon
13.5.0d; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:14:45 +0700
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] <-- HELO [117.102.94.107]
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] --> 250 dutaint.com Hello
[117.102.94.107], pleased to meet you
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] <-- MAIL From:<aha...@takenaka.co.id>
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] --> 550 dutaint.com does not accept
mail from [117.102.94.107]
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] SMTP session terminated (Bytes in/out:
58/193)
Wed 2013-04-10 08:14:45: [410137] ----------

Nama FQDN host yang pakai IP address akan direject oleh server ini.
Diganti saja isian FQDN host di MDaemon Anda sesuai dengan yang
tercantum di authoritative DNS.

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/13.0.1/index.html?default_domain_and_servers_domain.htm

FQDN for this host: mail.takenaka.co.id

dan minta ke ISP (biznet) untuk membuatkan PTR record untuk IP
117.102.94.107 map ke mail.takenaka.co.id

Mestinya mail yang terakhir (yang dikirim ke MDaemon-L-unsubcribe lewat
relayhost smtp.biz.net.id) sudah mendapatkan response.
Tinggal di reply saja mail konfirmasi tersebut.


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syafril
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MDaemon-L Moderators, running MDaemon 13.5 Beta D SecurityPlus 4.1.5
Harap tidak cc: atau kirim ke private mail untuk masalah MDaemon.


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