>
> Mohon tidak posting dengan top posting style di milis ini, selalu
> gunakan bottom (interleaved) posting untuk memudahkan pembacaan.
>
Baik pak, mohon maaf sebelumnya atas style balasan dari saya

 Bisa diperlihatkan transkrip log transaksinya di smtp-in log.

berikut transkip log yang saya dapatkan pak

Wed 2023-05-31 01:42:18: 01: ----------
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:27: 05: [036535] Session 036535; child 0002
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:27: 05: [036535] Accepting SMTP connection from [
209.85.221.43:54288] to [10.2.1.10:25]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:27: 03: [036535] --> 220 mail.makmurgroup.id ESMTP
MDaemon 13.5.1; Wed, 31 May 2023 01:28:27 +0700
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:28: 02: [036535] <-- EHLO mail-wr1-f43.google.com
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:28: 05: [036535] Performing IP lookup (
mail-wr1-f43.google.com)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:28: 05: [036535] *  D=mail-wr1-f43.google.com TTL=(60)
A=[209.85.221.43]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:28: 05: [036535] ---- End IP lookup results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:28: 01: [036535] EHLO/HELO response delayed 10 seconds
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 03: [036535] --> 250-mail.makmurgroup.id Hello
mail-wr1-f43.google.com, pleased to meet you
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 03: [036535] --> 250-ETRN
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 03: [036535] --> 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 03: [036535] --> 250-8BITMIME
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 03: [036535] --> 250-STARTTLS
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 03: [036535] --> 250 SIZE
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 02: [036535] <-- STARTTLS
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:38: 03: [036535] --> 220 Begin TLS negotiation
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 01: [036535] SSL negotiation successful (TLS 1.0,
1024 bit key exchange, 128 bit  encryption)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 02: [036535] <-- EHLO mail-wr1-f43.google.com
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] Performing IP lookup (
mail-wr1-f43.google.com)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=mail-wr1-f43.google.com TTL=(59)
A=[209.85.221.43]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] ---- End IP lookup results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 03: [036535] --> 250-mail.makmurgroup.id Hello
mail-wr1-f43.google.com, pleased to meet you
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 03: [036535] --> 250-ETRN
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 03: [036535] --> 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5 PLAIN
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 03: [036535] --> 250-8BITMIME
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 03: [036535] --> 250 SIZE
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 02: [036535] <-- MAIL FROM:<
[email protected]> SIZE=2636
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] Performing PTR lookup
(43.221.85.209.IN-ADDR.ARPA)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=43.221.85.209.IN-ADDR.ARPA
TTL=(1178) PTR=[mail-wr1-f43.google.com]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  Gathering A records...
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=mail-wr1-f43.google.com TTL=(59)
A=[209.85.221.43]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] ---- End PTR results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] Performing IP lookup (gmail.com)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.17]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.83]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.18]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.19]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  P=005 S=002 D=gmail.com TTL=(60)
MX=[gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com] {74.125.200.26}
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  P=010 S=003 D=gmail.com TTL=(60)
MX=[alt1.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  P=020 S=004 D=gmail.com TTL=(60)
MX=[alt2.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  P=030 S=000 D=gmail.com TTL=(60)
MX=[alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  P=040 S=001 D=gmail.com TTL=(60)
MX=[alt4.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.83]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.18]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.19]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] *  D=gmail.com TTL=(5)
A=[142.251.10.17]
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:39: 05: [036535] ---- End IP lookup results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] Performing SPF lookup (gmail.com /
209.85.221.43)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *  Policy: v=spf1 redirect=_
spf.google.com
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *  Evaluating redirect=_spf.google.com:

Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *  Evaluating redirect=_spf.google.com:
performing lookup
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *    Policy: v=spf1 include:_
netblocks.google.com include:_netblocks2.google.com include:_
netblocks3.google.com ~all
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *    Evaluating include:_
netblocks.google.com: performing lookup
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Policy: v=spf1 ip4:
35.190.247.0/24 ip4:64.233.160.0/19 ip4:66.102.0.0/20 ip4:66.249.80.0/20
ip4:72.14.192.0/18 ip4:74.125.0.0/16 ip4:108.177.8.0/21 ip4:173.194.0.0/16
ip4:209.85.128.0/17 ip4:216.58.192.0/19 ip4:216.239.32.0/19 ~all
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:35.190.247.0/24:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:64.233.160.0/19:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:66.102.0.0/20:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:66.249.80.0/20:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:72.14.192.0/18:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:74.125.0.0/16:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:108.177.8.0/21:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:173.194.0.0/16:
no match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *      Evaluating ip4:209.85.128.0/17:
match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *    Evaluating include:_
netblocks.google.com: match
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] *  Result: pass
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 09: [036535] ---- End SPF results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 03: [036535] --> 250 <
[email protected]>, Sender ok
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 02: [036535] <-- RCPT TO:<
[email protected]>
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:40: 05: [036535] Performing DNS-BL lookup
(209.85.221.43 - connecting IP)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:41: 05: [036535] *  cbl.abuseat.org - passed
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:42: 05: [036535] *  b.barracudacentral.org - passed
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 05: [036535] *  zen.spamhaus.org - passed
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 05: [036535] ---- End DNS-BL results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 03: [036535] --> 250 <[email protected]>,
Recipient ok
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 02: [036535] <-- DATA
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 01: [036535] Creating temp file (SMTP):
d:\mdaemon\queues\temp\md50000146720.tmp
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 03: [036535] --> 354 Enter mail, end with
<CRLF>.<CRLF>
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 01: [036535] Message size: 2636 bytes
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 08: [036535] Performing VBR certification (Domain:
gmail.com, Auth: SPF)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 08: [036535] *  File:
d:\mdaemon\queues\temp\md50000146720.tmp
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 08: [036535] *  Message-ID: <
can-drgpcpwpistrxfjotw7cpxq0p9bzewkc-vthh2r+7eoa...@mail.gmail.com>
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 08: [036535] *  Certifier (trusted):
vbr.emailcertification.org ...
Wed 2023-05-31 01:28:43: 08: [036535] *    Querying: gmail.com._
vouch.vbr.emailcertification.org ...
Wed 2023-05-31 01:32:55: 04: [036535] *  DNS: 240 second wait for DNS
response exceeded (DNS Server: 202.162.192.10)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 04: [036535] *  DNS: 240 second wait for DNS
response exceeded (DNS Server: 8.8.8.8)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] *  DNS: *  The name server reports
that it is having technical problems
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] *  Certification result: message not
certified
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] ---- End VBR results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 10: [036535] Performing DKIM lookup
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 10: [036535] *  File:
d:\mdaemon\queues\temp\md50000146720.tmp
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 10: [036535] *  Message-ID:
can-drgpcpwpistrxfjotw7cpxq0p9bzewkc-vthh2r+7eoa...@mail.gmail.com
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 10: [036535] * Signature (1):
;v=1;a=rsa-sha256;c=relaxed/relaxed;d=gmail.com;s=20221208;t=1685471169;x=1688063169;b
h=<not logged>;
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 10: [036535] *    Verification result: [0] good
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 10: [036535] *  Result: pass
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 10: [036535] ---- End DKIM results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] Performing VBR certification (Domain:
gmail.com, Auth: DKIM)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] *  File:
d:\mdaemon\queues\temp\md50000146720.tmp
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] *  Message-ID:
can-drgpcpwpistrxfjotw7cpxq0p9bzewkc-vthh2r+7eoa...@mail.gmail.com
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] *  Certifier (trusted):
vbr.emailcertification.org ...
Wed 2023-05-31 01:36:55: 08: [036535] *    Querying: gmail.com._
vouch.vbr.emailcertification.org ...
Wed 2023-05-31 01:41:07: 04: [036535] *  DNS: 240 second wait for DNS
response exceeded (DNS Server: 202.162.192.10)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 04: [036535] *  DNS: 240 second wait for DNS
response exceeded (DNS Server: 8.8.8.8)
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 08: [036535] *  DNS: *  The name server reports
that it is having technical problems
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 08: [036535] *  Certification result: message not
certified
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 08: [036535] ---- End VBR results
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 01: [036535] Message creation successful:
d:\mdaemon\queues\inbound\md50000624926.msg
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 03: [036535] --> 250 Ok, message saved
<Message-ID: <
can-drgpcpwpistrxfjotw7cpxq0p9bzewkc-vthh2r+7eoa...@mail.gmail.com>>
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 05: [036535] Connection closed
Wed 2023-05-31 01:45:07: 01: [036535] SMTP session successful (Bytes
in/out: 3713/1688)

 Apakah akun [email protected] di set autoforward ke akun
> [email protected]?

Atau di set auto bcc: ke [email protected]?

akun [email protected] tidak ada di set autoforward dan
auto bcc ke [email protected] pak



Pada tanggal Sen, 5 Jun 2023 pukul 06.32 Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L <
[email protected]> menulis:

> On 03/06/23 08.17, Rizky Pakpahan wrote:
>
> ---
> Mohon tidak posting dengan top posting style di milis ini, selalu
> gunakan bottom (interleaved) posting untuk memudahkan pembacaan.
>
> https://blog.joelesler.net/2009/12/bottom-posting.html
>
> The particular part to pay attention to is in RFC1855 --
>
> "- If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
> summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just
> enough text of the original to give a context. This will make
> sure readers understand when they start to read your response.
> Since NetNews, especially, is proliferated by distributing the
> postings from one host to another, it is possible to see a
> response to a message before seeing the original. Giving context
> helps everyone. But do not include the entire original!"
>
> Inline reply (Interleaved reply, bottom reply) itu seperti ini
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
>
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette#Replies
>
> Inline reply butuh pemangkasan kutipan teks yang tidak sesuai konteks
> agar mail mudah dibaca recipient, disamping penggunakan Internet Quote
> Style (ada penanda/ tag > didepan semua baris teks kutipan ulang)
>
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette#Trimming
> https://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html#ss2.1
>
> Untuk memangkas (hapus) text hanya perlu ketangkasan menggunakan mouse
> dan atau keyboard.
>
> https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001669.htm
>
> Untuk gmail apps, cara inline reply seperti contoh dibawah ini
>
>
> https://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/49884/how-to-insert-a-reply-inline-in-gmail/49886
> ---
>
> >> Apakah ada banyak smtp-in log dari
> [email protected]
> >> ke [email protected]  berkali-kali?
> > Benar pak, ada banyak smtp-in dari sender berkali-kali
>
>
> Bisa diperlihatkan transkrip log transaksinya di smtp-in log.
> Cara mencari transaksi dari log bisa lihat contoh disini
>
>
> https://mdaemonid.blogspot.com/2020/05/mencari-transaksi-mdaemon-dari-log.html
>
> >> Atau [email protected]  terima mail duplicate di inbox
> nya?
> > akun tersebut menerima mail duplicate pak di inbox
>
> >> [email protected]  pakai email client apa untuk akses
> mail dari
> >> MDaemon?
>
> > email client pakai Ms outlook 2016 pak
>
> >> POP3 atau IMAP?
>
> > pakai POP3 pak
>
> > On 03/06/23 14.27, Rizky Pakpahan wrote:
> > Berikut beberapa header message, dari mail duplikat pada tanggal
> > pengiriman yg sama dan isi yang sama pak. barangkali dapat membantu
> > pak
>
> > 1.
>
> > Received: by mail-lf1-f41.google.com with SMTP id
> 2adb3069b0e04-4f3b4ed6fdeso2208600e87.3 for <[email protected]>;
> Fri, 02 Jun 2023 00:13:00 -0700 (PDT)
> > X-Gm-Message-State:
> AC+VfDw7+S94AqkMDioTXP1QsW0kgm3cfIiW/VnBOujoash4FO89JbSrB8tWOMqJy4aiJZkgP3293RcMIWfpJEWOOHW3N0fZyXaB
> > X-Google-Smtp-Source:
> ACHHUZ63nRQUCShPrTvSUPFrJ9RKikq/QASQTgvXEzV9k8lxnup1wKIChflk+ygK0+aXfplvyNOrA0oDnUIj2HpY74E=
> > X-Received: by 2002:adf:f551:0:b0:309:4eef:5300 with SMTP id
> j17-20020adff551000000b003094eef5300mr3429103wrp.20.1685679303721; Thu,
> 01Jun 2023 21:15:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > From: Rizky Kurniawan Pakpahan <[email protected]>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 11:14:52 +0700
> > Message-ID: <CAN-DRGrEe5cYAMUNY-d__Ldn-Cu8=
> [email protected]>
> > Subject: test 02 jun 2023
> > To: "rizky.pakpahan" <[email protected]>
>
> > 2.
>
> > Received: by mail-lf1-f42.google.com with SMTP id
> 2adb3069b0e04-4f60a27c4a2so1895222e87.2 for <[email protected]>;
> Fri, 02 Jun 2023 01:38:49 -0700 (PDT)
> > X-Gm-Message-State:
> AC+VfDwegzwYOyBp2kBNxoxofy/Es023aTccfkKgXHLU3IuwpJ4KaZaWWuldhY9kI3djmDzMqSCR1Fc85JqOmHSDhjqof+rJJUNE
> > X-Google-Smtp-Source:
> ACHHUZ63nRQUCShPrTvSUPFrJ9RKikq/QASQTgvXEzV9k8lxnup1wKIChflk+ygK0+aXfplvyNOrA0oDnUIj2HpY74E=
> > X-Received: by 2002:adf:f551:0:b?0:309:4eef:5300 with SMTP id
> j17-20020adff551000000b003094eef5300mr3429103wrp.20.1685679303721; Thu, 01
> Jun 2023 21:15:03 -0700 (PDT)
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > From: Rizky Kurniawan Pakpahan <[email protected]>
> > Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2023 11:14:52 +0700
> > Message-ID: <CAN-DRGrEe5cYAMUNY-d__Ldn-Cu8=
> [email protected]>
> > Subject: test 02 jun 2023
> > To: "rizky.pakpahan" <[email protected]>
>
>
> Yang kirim duplicate mail adalah server gmail.com, dalam hal ini proxy
> server 2002:adf:f551:0:b0:309:4eef:5300.
>
> Apakah akun [email protected] di set autoforward ke akun
> [email protected]?
> Atau di set auto bcc: ke [email protected]?
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> syafril
> --------
> Syafril Hermansyah
> MDaemon-L Moderators, running MDaemon 23.0.2 Beta D
> Harap tidak cc: atau kirim ke private mail untuk masalah MDaemon.
>
> Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the
> lesson afterwards.
>         --- Vernon Saunders Law
>
>
> --
> --[mdaemon-l]----------------------------------------------------------
> Milis ini untuk Diskusi antar pengguna MDaemon Mail Server di Indonesia
>
> Netiket: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette
> Arsip: http://mdaemon-l.dutaint.com
> Dokumentasi : http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id
> Berlangganan: Kirim mail ke [email protected]
> Henti Langgan: Kirim mail ke [email protected]
> Versi terakhir: MDaemon 23.0.1, SecurityGateway 9.0.2
>
>
>

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Netiket: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MailingListEtiquette
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