Thanks everyone! I will start with introducing the book (I was mainly
interested in your feedback on that one). I agree, Raspberry Pi is also
useful! I was concerned with the timing of such a piecemeal introduction of
the computer organization to budding programmers. Looks like *now* is an
appropriate time. I talked of JavaScript only to give you a background of
the subject (the high-schooler).

Regards,
Kedar


On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 6:43 AM Ben Evans <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Also - don't forget about the Raspberry Pi. They are a fantastic
> platform for hobbyists, including teenagers.
>
> They are surprisingly capable little machines, but it's still very
> possible to run up against their limitations. In my opinion, they
> provide the closest modern equivalent to the home computers of the 80s
> (which I'm guessing that many of us cut our milk teeth on) that
> required even a novice programmer to think about the machine and its
> behaviour rather than the far-abstracted and extremely powerful /
> well-resourced systems that modern laptops / desktops are.
>
> +1 to the Julia Evans (no relation) suggestion too...
>
> Ben
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 09:22, William Pietri <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I don't deal with high-schoolers much, so take this with a grain of
> salt. But I have tried to teach mechanical sympathy to young engineers from
> non-traditional backgrounds, so I have one small suggestion to add to the
> excellent advice so far.
> >
> > My mechanical sympathy started with working on machines where
> performance issues were visible. On an Apple II, you knew if disk access
> was the problem because the floppy disk made a lot of noise; you could hear
> the seeks and the steady reads. You knew about network activity because you
> could watch the modem lights blink, or pick up the phone and listen to the
> pattern of the bits flowing. So early on, when something was slow, I
> developed intuitions as to why.
> >
> > My computers have since gotten very quiet, but I still have the right
> edge of the screen devoted to a gkrellm display with a dense display of
> indicators. And any time I'm waiting, I check it to make sure the displays
> match my intuition. When I'm wrong, I pull out richer tools to find out why.
> >
> > So my suggestion is to provide visual or auditory indicators of what you
> want them to have sympathy with. Then, every time they are waiting on the
> machine, quiz them as to why. Get them in the habit of guessing as to what
> the machine is doing and then finding out whether they're right.
> >
> > As to the finding out part, you also might want to get them some copies
> of Julia Evans' zines, which cover topics like perf, tcpdump, strace, and
> debuggers. They're lively, approachable, and excellent. Her enthusiasm is
> contagious.
> >
> > The zines themselves are here: https://jvns.ca/zines/
> >
> > She also has a blog that I like a lot: https://jvns.ca/
> >
> >
> > William
> >
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