Utk sdr. Firman dan Eka Zulkarnaen,
di artikel saya ada link ke artikel mengenai pembunuhan ke 700 orang Kuraish
tsb. Silahkan di klik linknya. (yang hurufnya berwarna biru).
amartien
jp2success <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Saya setuju dengan Mas Eka Zulkarnain, dan Mas Amartin mohon silahkan
tunjukan literatur yang dimaksud, disamping menjadi sumber bahan
bacaan baru buat member yang lain, juga agar pernyataan Mas Amartin
tidak dianggap sebagai provokasi.
Trims
Firman
--- In [email protected], eka zulkarnain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Maaf mas Amartien,
> saya suka baca literatur Islam dan sejarahnya baik
> karangan intelektual Islam maupun Barat. Saya belum
> pernah baca tentang adanya instruksi Nabi Muhammad
> kepada pengikutnya untuk membunuh 700 orang dari Bani
> Quraisy di Madina dengan cara digorok lehernya.
> Tolong mas amartien, sumbernya darimana ya? Kali
> aja bisa jadi bahan bacaan baru saya...
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> --- amartien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > KSM:
> > "I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head
> > of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of
> > Karachi, Pakistan," Mohammed is quoted as saying in
> > a transcript of a military hearing at Guantanamo
> > Bay, Cuba, released by the Pentagon.
> > "For those who would like to confirm, there are
> > pictures of me on the Internet holding his head," he
> > added.
> > amartien:
> > Hanya orang2 yang barbar saja yang membanggakan
> > menggorok leher orang. Begitupun yang membela atau
> > menganggap orang2 seperti ini sebagai pahlawan,
> > sama2 barbar juga.
> > Mungkin mereka hanya menurut/mengikut contoh apa
> > yang diperintahkan oleh Muhammad untuk membunuh
> > dengan cara menggorok 700 dari bani Quraisyah di
> > Medina.
> > Tidak heran Islam penggorok leher ini bangga akan
> > perbuatan biadabnya itu!!!!!
> >
> >
> >
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070315/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/
us_terrorist_confession_42;_ylt=A0WTcUy7h_lFcXwB7B0Tv5UB
> > By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer Thu
> > Mar 15, 11:37 AM ET
> > WASHINGTON - Suspected 9/11 mastermind Khalid
> > Sheikh Mohammed confessed to the beheading of
> > American journalist Daniel Pearl and a central role
> > in 30 other attacks and plots in the U.S. and
> > worldwide that killed thousands of victims, said a
> > revised transcript released Thursday by the U.S.
> > military.
> > "I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head
> > of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of
> > Karachi, Pakistan," Mohammed is quoted as saying in
> > a transcript of a military hearing at Guantanamo
> > Bay, Cuba, released by the Pentagon.
> > "For those who would like to confirm, there are
> > pictures of me on the Internet holding his head," he
> > added.
> > Mohammed's claimed involvement in the 2002 slaying
> > of the Wall Street Journal reporter was among 31
> > attacks and plots some of which never occurred
> > he took responsibility for in a hearing Saturday at
> > the U.S. naval prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, the
> > Pentagon said.
> > It released the bulk of the transcript late
> > Wednesday, but held back the section about Pearl's
> > killing to allow time for his family to be notified,
> > said Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman.
> > The Associated Press reported Wednesday that it
> > had learned that the transcripts released Wednesday
> > evening had blacked out the reference to Mohammed's
> > confession about the Pearl slaying. Pearl was
> > abducted in January 2002 in Pakistan while
> > researching a story on Islamic militancy. Mohammed
> > has long been a suspect in the slaying, which was
> > captured on video.
> > Sealing a legacy of historical notoriety, Mohammed
> > portrayed himself as al-Qaida's most ambitious
> > operational planner in a confession to a U.S.
> > military tribunal that said he planned and supported
> > a series of terrorist attacks, topped by 9/11. The
> > gruesome attacks range from the suicide hijackings
> > of Sept. 11, 2001 which killed nearly 3,000 to a
> > 2002 shooting on an island off Kuwait that killed a
> > U.S. Marine, according to an account released by the
> > Pentagon.
> > Many plots, including a previously undisclosed
> > plan to kill several former U.S. presidents, were
> > never carried out or were foiled by international
> > counterterror authorities.
> > "I was responsible for the 9/11 operation from A
> > to Z," Mohammed said in a statement read Saturday
> > during a Combatant Status Review Tribunal at the
> > U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
> > Mohammed's confession was read by a member of the
> > U.S. military who is serving as his personal
> > representative.
> > The Pentagon had released a 26-page transcript of
> > the closed-door proceedings on Wednesday night. Some
> > material was omitted, and it wasn't possible to
> > immediately verify details. The document refers to
> > locations for which the United States and other
> > nations have issued terrorism warnings based on what
> > they deemed credible threats from 1993 to the
> > present.
> > Whitman said authorities would decide how credible
> > it is that Mohammed participated in so many plots if
> > he is tried by a military tribunal, which many
> > expect will eventually happen.
> > "These are his words." Whitman said.
> > Mohammed, known as KSM among government officials,
> > was last seen haggard after his capture in March
> > 2003, when he was photographed in a dingy white
> > T-shirt with an over-stretched neck. He disappeared
> > for more than three years into a secret detention
> > system run by the CIA.
> > In his first public statements since his capture,
> > his radical ideology and self-confidence came
> > through. He expressed regret for taking the lives of
> > children and said Islam doesn't give a "green light"
> > to killing.
> > Yet he finds room for exceptions. "The language of
> > the war is victims," he said.
> > He also said some people "consider George
> > Washington as hero. Muslims many of them are
> > considering Osama bin Laden. He is doing same thing.
> > He is just fighting. He needs his independence."
> > In laying out his role in 31 attacks, his words
> > drew al-Qaida closer to plots of the early 1990s
> > than the group has previously been linked, including
> > the 1993 World Trade Center truck bombing in which
> > six people died.
> > Six people with links to global terror networks
> > were convicted in federal court and sentenced to
> > life in prison for that attack.
> > Mohammed made clear that al-Qaida wanted to down a
> > second trans-Atlantic aircraft during would-be shoe
> > bomber Richard Reid's operation.
> > President Bush announced that Mohammed and 13
> > other alleged terror operatives had been moved from
> > secret CIA prisons to the U.S. Naval Base at
> > Guantanamo Bay last year. They are considered the 14
> > most significant captures since 9/11.
> > The military began the hearings last Friday to
> > determine whether the 14 should be declared "enemy
> > combatants" who can be held indefinitely and
> > prosecuted by military tribunals.
> > If the 14 are declared enemy combatants, as
> > expected, the military would then draft and file
> > charges against them. The detainees would be tried
> > under the new military commissions law signed by
> > Bush in October.
> > The military barred reporters or other independent
> > observers from the sessions for the 14 operatives
> > and is limiting the information it provides about
> > them, arguing that it wants to prevent the
> > disclosure of sensitive information.
> > Legal experts have criticized the U.S. decision,
> > and The Associated Press filed a letter of protest,
> > arguing that it would be "an unconstitutional
> > mistake to close the proceedings in their entirety."
> >
> > The transcripts refer to a claim by Mohammed that
> > he was tortured by the CIA, although he said he was
> > not under duress at Guantanamo when he confessed to
> > his role in the attacks. The CIA has said its
> > interrogation practices are legal, and it does not
> > use torture.
> > Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights
> > Watch, questioned the legality of the closed-door
> > sessions and whether the confession was actually the
> > result of torture.
> > "We won't know that unless there is an independent
> > hearing," he said. "We need to know if this
> > purported confession would be enough to convict him
> > at a fair trial or would it have to be suppressed as
> > the fruit of torture?"
> > In listing the 28 attacks he planned and another
> > three he supported, Mohammed said he tried to kill
> > international leaders including President Clinton
> > and Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf.
> > He said he planned the 2002 bombing of a Kenya
> > beach resort frequented by Israelis and the failed
> > missile attack on an Israeli passenger jet after it
> > took off from Mombasa, Kenya.
> > He also said he was responsible for the bombing of
> > a nightclub in Bali, Indonesia. In 2002, 202 were
> > killed when two nightclubs there were bombed.
> > Other plots he said he was responsible for
> > included planned attacks against the Sears Tower in
> > Chicago, the Empire State Building and New York
> > Stock Exchange in New York City, the Panama Canal,
> > and Big Ben and Heathrow Airport in London none of
> > which happened.
> > The Pentagon also released transcripts of the
> > hearings of Abu Faraj al-Libi and Ramzi Binalshibh.
> > Both refused to attended the hearings, although
> > al-Libi submitted a statement claiming that the
> > hearings are unfair and that he will not attend
> > unless it is corrected.
> > "The detainee is in a lose-lose situation," he
> > said.
> > Al-Libi, whose name means he is a Libyan,
> > reportedly masterminded two bombings 11 days apart
> > in Pakistan in December 2003 that targeted Musharraf
> > for his support of the U.S.-led war on terror.
> > Binalshibh, a Yemeni, is suspected of helping
> > Mohammed with the 9/11 attack plan on New York City
> > and Washington and is also linked to a foiled plot
> > to crash aircraft into London's Heathrow Airport.
> > His hearing was conducted in his absence.
> > ___
> > Associated Press writers Pauline Jelinek, Lolita
> > C. Baldor and Matthew Lee contributed to this
> > report.
> > ___
> > On the Net:
> > Detainee transcripts:
> >
> >
> http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Combatant_Tribunals.html
> >
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> Eka Zulkarnain
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