Hi, 1. Very good idea, and thank you for helping triaging the little tasks that don't make it to your backlogs.
2. For what is worth, Annoying_little_bugs moved from being a list curated manually to point to Bugzilla queries, focusing there the work or triaging and prioritization. 3. Andre and me are looking for a good activity to restart our monthly Bug Day. Could it be an activity helping to fish these microtasks? On Thursday, April 10, 2014, Dan Garry <[email protected]> wrote: > Antoine, > > Allow me to explain my motivations a bit. Perhaps it will become clearer > then. :-) > > As a team, we have responsibilities. For example, that task that's on > there right now is a problem caused by our actions; we pulled that > extension for security reasons, then decided we couldn't reenable it due to > design issues. Therefore our actions have caused a very real regression in > our user experience. As the product manager, I find these regressions > concerning, and we have a responsibility to fix them. > > Right now, my only recourse to fix these user experience regressions is to > ask politely for someone from the team to help me. I typically get a > lukewarm response to these requests. Meanwhile, I get a fair amount of > abuse directed at me by volunteers for not fixing these problems, because I > am the public face of the team and it (outwardly) looks like we don't care > to fix these relatively simple problems. Sure, it sucks for us to do these > random tasks, but it sucks hard for our users too. We lose a lot of > credibility with some of our volunteers for it. > > So what I'm trying to do here is make it as easy as humanely possible for > you guys, the overworked engineers, to pick these tasks up and get them > done. At the same time, I don't want to get sucked into maintaining control > over the task list, so mediawiki.org was the simplest solution. > > I hope that helps explain things a bit. > > Thanks, > Dan > > On 10 April 2014 09:03, Antoine Musso > <[email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> > > wrote: > >> Le 10/04/2014 00:53, Dan Garry a écrit : >> > >> > The list can be found >> > at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Platform_product_microtasks, and >> could >> > be thought of as "annoying little bugs for more experienced developers". >> >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs is a nice page, I >> point our India volunteers to it constantly (no clue if it has any >> effects though). >> >> I tend to dislike MediaWiki to maintains backlog lists. Maybe we could >> use: >> >> - a keyword or tracking bug in Bugzilla. >> - phabricator , I would not mind start being used to it >> - trello (yet another tool) >> >> We used to do weekly reviews of bugs keyworded platformeng. The are 111 >> of bugs so you would have a hard time raising attention for the micro >> tasks though :( >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=platformeng >> >> >> -- >> Antoine "hashar" Musso >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MediaWiki-Core mailing list >> [email protected]<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-core >> > > > > -- > Dan Garry > Associate Product Manager for Platform > Wikimedia Foundation > -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil
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