On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM, halz <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you've ever set up a fresh MediaWiki and tried to leave it open to 
> editing, you'll know about the problem of wiki spam. There's various well 
> documented tricks to tackle the problem on your own wiki (although it seems 
> to me that some of these are becoming less effective over time. Particularly 
> reCaptcha)
>
>
> But wiki spammers are behaving in a staggeringly inconsiderate and 
> anti-social way, and I've often thought we should explore stronger ways of 
> delivering some fight back.
>
> Looking at spam across many wikis e.g. by googling "mediawiki ugg boots" we 
> could do more internet-wide spam cleanup somehow.
>
> But recently I came across something, actually by looking at one the spam 
> links. Take a look at this: sickseo.co.uk/off-page-seo.html   This video 
> shows the use of a tool called 'SENuke Xcr'  and another one called 'Ultimate 
> Demon'  to perform "Off site SEO" ...that's "spamming" to you and me.
>
> I've always known spammers used tools like this, but seeing this 
> instructional video gives me new insights into what we're up against. Also 
> see the discussion taking place on forum.edwinsoft.com  I find it amazing how 
> oblivious these people seem to be, to how annoying their activities are for 
> people running websites. Never do they mention the word spam, or have an 
> inkling that they may be doing something ethically questionable.
>
> Do you think we should try to contact them and explain that they are behaving 
> badly? Maybe on these forums. Maybe we'd have to spam them back repeatedly 
> with such messages as they get removed by the admins. And on youtube do you 
> think we can get videos like this removed? We can at least comment on them 
> and vote them down (Youtube finds quite a lot of similar videos) How about 
> unleashing a bit of "ethical hacking" e.g. DDOS attacks on people 
> distributing this software? Really I'm amazed at how they're getting away 
> with this spamming out in the open these days.

Please do make sure you know the laws of where you live, and stay
within them. They may be a pain, but please don't break the law :)

Personally, I would recommend taking a look at how some of these tools
work and find ways to explicitly detect and block them. At one point
we were able to trip up a few of them, but I don't personally have the
time right now to reverse engineer them and look for signatures. But
if someone wants to do it, I'd gladly point you in the right
direction.


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