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>   1. Re: "Go" vs "Search" ([email protected])
>   2. Re: "Go" vs "Search" ([email protected])
>   3. content in site root (Jeremy Baron)
>   4. Re: "Go" vs "Search" (Nik Everett)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 21:25:53 -0700
>From: [email protected]
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>Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] "Go" vs "Search"
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>Wait!
>
>At the bottom of the 'Simple search' search box's drop down suggestion
>list is a final item in a shaded box that reads 'Containing: <search
>sting here>'. Selecting that takes you to a search results page. Aha!
>
>Why am I only now learning this? Maybe I'm a model average user? Not
>likely. But it is learning by playing. So maybe others can do it, too?
>What do you think?
>
>Roger
>
>On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:18 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I've just realized that, using 'Simple search', all one has to do to
>> get past the article title suggestions is lengthen ones search string
>> till it no longer exactly matches any article titles. Then, and only
>> then, does 'Simple search' take you to a search results page. Might
>> this simply be something folks need to learn to do, by doing? And
>> might it simply work? Are average users consistently so cleaver?
>> Argggg. I think if we lead them in the right direction it will work
>> fine. What do you think?
>>
>> Roger
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:27 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Now that I think about it, does the prefix search still work with that 
>>>> hack?
>>>> By work I mean you should be able to select one of the entries that pops
>>>> down under the search box as you type and it takes you to that article.
>>>
>>> No, with the hack in place clicking on one of the drop down search
>>> suggestions takes you to the search results page for that value, not
>>> to an article page. That _is_ perhaps what I want. I want Search to
>>> take you to a search results page, so that a user may choose which
>>> page he wants.
>>>
>>> Is the drop down list of search suggestions generated from a list of
>>> the wiki's page titles? Hm, I guess it is. I had not realized that. So
>>> how does one search the wiki's page texts? This whole search feature
>>> seems to be designed to take a user to a destination article directly
>>> whenever possible. I'm not sure that is best for my wiki because that
>>> page may not always be the one a user wants and without the search
>>> results page, how will he find the one he does want? By doing another
>>> search with more search terms? Hm, maybe we can all get used to this
>>> and maybe it will just work.
>>>
>>> Argggg, and trying to change this designed in behavior may not be so
>>> easy for a chiefly point and click guy like me.
>>>
>>> So I may decide to use the two button ('Go' + 'Search') Search box
>>> that I get when I set $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch to false, instead,
>>> especially if this hack is not going to work in future.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tips.
>>>
>>> Roger
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>Message: 2
>Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 21:27:46 -0700
>From: [email protected]
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>Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] "Go" vs "Search"
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>> have you tried clicking the entry below the suggestions? (where it says
>> "containing…") see attachment
>>
>> -Jeremy
>
>Yes Jeremy. Thanks, just discovered that a moment ago. I guess others
>can "discover" it, too. Hope so.
>
>Roger
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 04:36:47 +0000
>From: Jeremy Baron <[email protected]>
>To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
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>Subject: [MediaWiki-l] content in site root
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>On Sep 7, 2013 12:27 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes Jeremy. Thanks, just discovered that a moment ago. I guess others
>> can "discover" it, too. Hope so.
>
>btw, just noticed that your content lives in the site root. have a look at
>https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory when you
>get a chance.
>
>(moved offlist because I didn't notice it until now and didn't want to add
>more noise to the thread)
>
>-Jeremy
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 07:10:06 -0400
>From: Nik Everett <[email protected]>
>To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
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>Cc: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
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>Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] "Go" vs "Search"
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>On Sep 7, 2013, at 12:27 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>> have you tried clicking the entry below the suggestions? (where it says
>>> "containing…") see attachment
>>> 
>>> -Jeremy
>> 
>> Yes Jeremy. Thanks, just discovered that a moment ago. I guess others
>> can "discover" it, too. Hope so.
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
>
>You can prefix a search with ~ and that'll force a search but that isn't 
>intuitive either. 
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