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We have been addressing this for a while.  We have many "Outreach" locations 
and don't want 
to set up new locations.
 
Claim Check "CALC UB92 TOB" makes use of a Field "TOB 141" (among others) and 
associated Map,
to make 141 the Type of Bill.
The logic is along the lines of:  If the Account's "Admission Source Code" is 
one of these,
and the account's Revenue codes are in a Map, make the TOB 141.  
 
Well it seems the definition of Source Code has changed quite a bit over the 
years.  There 
is no more "Other" Admission Source that can be used on a Medicare OP Claim.  
They now 
seem to want the source code indicating MD Referral whether the patient is here 
or their 
specimen is brought in.
 
I have asked Meditech for a custom Claim Field "zTOB 141" that would work off 
the 
Admission Source MNEMONIC that we build in our Dictionary.  Like "NP" which 
would indicate 
Non-Patient, but still put the Correct Source Code for MD Referral on the claim
 
The proposed logic:  If the Admission Source MNEMONIC is in list A, and the Rev 
Code is in 
Map B, Use 141 on the claim.
 
Is anyone else coming up with alternative solutions?
 
Thanks,
 
Rich McNeil
Southcoast Hospitals Group
New Bedford, MA
 
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Subject: RE: [MEDITECH-L] Magic-BAR Medicare Bill Type 141
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Roger,
We had this clarified when we became a Critical Access Hospital and had to 
change to Bill type 851 for our Out Patients.  If a patient does not physic
ally enter the building we have made these visits the 141 TOB.  We did this by 
our location setup in Meditech.  If admissions registers the patient an
d the speciman comes from a nursing home patient, we use a nursing home 
location.  If they register a speciman from a doctor's office (a path specimen
), then we use a path location.  Then in BAR, we have tied these locations so 
that they map the TOB to become a 141.  It has been working for us.
Hope this helps.
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Has anyone come up with how they are going to handle generating a bill type
141 for Non-Patient Laboratory Specimens
for Medicare patients?
 
There is a big change as of 4/03/2006 for Medicare type of bill 141.
CMS is now redefining the meaning of the usage of type of bill 141.
For our hospital all outpatient services is now to appear on the 13x type of
bill.
TOB 141 is to be only used for when only a lab specimen is sent to be tested
here,
i.e. the term"Non-Patient Laboratory Specimen".
 
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