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We have made a decision that all "paper" documentation done during a downtime 
is entered into the system after  the downtime is over.  In addition to the 
statistics and billing, one of the most compelling reasons for us is that we 
want our Medical Records department to know that if they get a request to for a 
Medical Record they look in the EMR and print the ED record.   

Cindy Grolla, RN
Clinical Project Leader
Phone: 507.646.1209
Pager: 507.645.1475


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Good afternoon:
We are having serious discussions about this issue at present, also.   If we 
are down, that patient follow through is on paper.  The ER nurses are not 
required to go back into the system to re-enter in the information.  This 
affects several different aspects of the electronic record.  Some of the issues 
that has come up has to do with current statistics, length of stay, etc.  Also, 
the ED Log that we are required to keep, have the patients that come thru as 
registered, but no documentation, making the ER Log incomplete.  Another issue 
is that charges do not get dropped from documentation, having a trickle down 
effect for other users (coders, billers, etc.).

I don't have the answers, just the problems that we have seen with the paper 
chart not getting entered into the computer.

We are Magic 5.5....

Diane Folsom, RNC
Clinical Information System Specialist
Sid Peterson Memorial Hospital
Kerrville, Texas
830-258-7080

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> Hi Angel, 
> We have been live with EDM for about 4 years. We do staff a few ED Techs and
> LPN's both of which are able to document patient assessments, but their
> assessments must be cosigned by an RN. As for downtime, we revert back to
> our old paper assessment. Any patient started on paper remains on paper, we
> do not enter information into the system once it is back up. It saves on
> confusion and time. 
> As far as acuity level, with the assessments being chief complaint driven,
> the higher the acuity and more critical the patient, the more documentation
> marked as required.  This serves as a reminder to staff that certain things
> should be done. 
> 
> Hope this helps and good luck
> 
> Dana Pfingstler, RN
> Nursing Analyst
> Elk Regional Health Center
> St Marys, PA 15857
> 814 788-8682
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> Subject: [MEDITECH-L] RE: EDM - Documentation Policy & Downtime
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> Please post - this would be great information to have.
> 
> Thank You
>  
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> From: Hampton, Angel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:35 AM
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> Subject: EDM - Documentation Policy & Downtime
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> (C/S 5.4)
> We are currently building our clinical documentation for EDM, and are
> looking for examples of a documentation policy that outlines expectations
> for Live documentation, as well as downtime.
> Do any sites vary documentation expectation by patient acuity level ? 
> Do your ED Techs or other non-licensed staff document in EDM ?
> What do you have in place for downtime policy and forms ?
> Do you enter back in, the documentation collected during downtime on paper ?
> If so, who does this ?
> 
> Thank you for any assistance, 
> 
> Angel Hampton RN
>  ED Clinical Analyst 
>   (386) 226-4509
>    Cell 679-3614
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>  Halifax Medical Center
>    Daytona Beach, FL
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