Jean - The MIS toolbox parameters in 5.61 now have a place where you choose a BMI formula. Perhaps this is why your calculation fails. Below is a task that I set up which contains information on this. Hope this helps.
<https://www.meditech.com/programs/ams.exe?TYPE=OnLine&WAC=WAC> Washington County Hospital Association <https://www.meditech.com/programs/ams.exe?TYPE=OnLine&WAC=WAC> Charlie Downs This connection to <http://www.meditech.com> MEDITECH.com is https/ssl secured. Service Issue PHA #5221677 Issue: PHA #5221677 (Apr 18, 2007) Status: Change Control Priority: Routine Description: Body surface are difference between 5.5 and 5.6 Request Type: Problem System Affected: Test Customer Contact: Downs,Charlie (301-790-8904) Issue Notification: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MEDITECH/AMS Edits) Module Notifications: Close,Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - ALL Edits Rowland,Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - MEDITECH Edits Received By: MEDITECH's Web Site Application Specialist: Victor <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bosteels 781-774-5328 (Available For Calls) Last Edit: Apr 19, 2007 at 1129 EDT Related Issues: PHA #5119278 (Test) WAC: PHA - FULL UPDATE 5.61 - MG <http://www.meditech.com/programs/ams.exe?TYPE.TaskDetail=R&task=5119278&WAC =WAC> Charlie Downs (via Web) - Apr 18, 2007 - 1215 EDT: Please look at the following DTS: MG ADM 4461 - BSA might not be calculated after filing height and weight Available in Releases: 5.6 SR1Request Type: Correction Associated Requests: N/A Search Flags: Canadian: N; Parameters: N; Conversions: N; Data Definitions: N General Description Previously, it was possible to file a weight without a value for OZ. However, the calculation for Body Surface Area (BSA) only occurs after filing height and weight if all six values are passed into the filer: FT, IN, CM, LB, OZ and KG. The BSA was not calculated when there was not an entry for OZ.. This has been corrected. I have a test patient in 5.5 and one in 5.6 where I entered identical information with nothing in the ounce field, yet get a BSA of 1.38 in 5.61 and 1.39 in 5.5. I know that this is only a .01 difference, but I did the calculation on a calculator and came up with 1.39. Why the difference. I've enteed the information on the following patients, but didn't file just in case you wanted to dial in and figure out what is going on. 5.5 Patient: Patient ARM,MOTHER Acct # H0000008425 Loc 2E U # H003335 Ag/Sx 44/F Rm 2005 Reg 10/28/06 Reg Dr MANGER,GEORGE E.,JR. Status ADM IN Bed 01 DIS Height 5 ft in 152.4 cm Body Surface Area 1.39 m2 Cart 2E Weight 100 lb oz 45.359 kg 5.6 Patient: Patient DR,ERROR LOG Acct # H0000001206 Loc 2E U # H003773 Ag/Sx 40/F Rm 2007 Reg 04/17/07 Reg Dr MANGER,GEORGE E.,JR. Status ADM IN Bed 01 DIS Height 5 ft in 152.4 cm Body Surface Area 1.38 m2 Cart 2E Weight 100 lb oz 45.359 kg Serum Creat Resulted On Creatinine Clearance Access Patient Lifetime Dose Why the small discrepancy? If I fill in the zero for ounces, it makes no difference either. Thanks, Charlie Bosteels,Victor (MEDITECH) - Apr 18, 2007 - 1454 EDT: Thanks Charlie, I will test this in the in house and standard here. Vic Bosteels,Victor (MEDITECH) - Apr 19, 2007 - 1126 EDT: Charlie, the BSA Calculations have ben centralized in the MUIS Clinical parameters per DTS 6820: With this enhancement, calculations for the calculation of body surface area (BSA), ideal body weight (IBW), creatinine clearance and carboplatin dose formulas have been centralized. The centralization of filers and calculation programs ensures that all applications are producing consistent results using the same formulas. The formulas have been added to the MIS Clinical Parameters, page 2. The Body Surface Area (BSA) formulas are: BOYD DUBOIS GEHAN&GEORGE HAYCOCK MOSTELLER The Idea Body Weight formulas are: DEVINE LORENTZ MILLER PEDIATRIC ROBINSON TRABU TRAUB The Creatinine Clearance formulas are: COCKROFT&GAULT JELLIFFE SANAKA SCHWARTZ The MIS Clinical Parameters are available from the following toolboxes: EPS, LAB, NUR, OE, PHA, RADRW, and can be defined by facility. Steps to Test: 1. Verify MIS Clinical Parameters displays: Default Body Surface Area (BSA) Formulas: BOYD DUBOIS GEHAN&GEORGE HAYCOCK MOSTELLER Ideal Body Weight (IBW) Formulas: DEVINE LORENTZ MILLER PEDIATRIC ROBINSON TRABU TRAUB Default Creatinine Clearance Formulas: COCKROFT&GAULT JELLIFFE SANAKA SCHWARTZ Weight Display: ACTUAL IDEAL 2. Verify Page 2 of the MIS Clinical Parameters is Facility-specific. 3. Verify MIS Clinical Parameters are available in the following toolboxes: EPS, LAB, NUR, OE, PHA, RADRW. Can I have permission to dial in and set the Parmaterr to match the PHA CDP entry? Also I will need an Age Range for the system to review. Vic ********************** Change Control Procedure ***************************** Application Change/DTS #'s: Edit MIS Clinical Parameter for BSA Downtime: NONE Permission to move to TEST required from: Charlie Downs **************************************************************************** *** Status changed from 'Open' to 'Change Control'. _____ Click Here To Edit This Issue _____ Select another web area Site Announcements & Support Tools Page Service Issues Issues by Module All Active Issues Enter New Issue Download Issues View Completed Issues Support Staff MEDITECH Support Staff MEDITECH Support Hierarchy MEDITECH Directory Site Contacts View Individual DTS Projects then click Charlie Charles Downs PharmD Washington County Hospital 251 E. Antietam Street Hagerstown, MD, 21740 301-790-8904 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mathia, Jean Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:12 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: [MEDITECH-L] BMI in 5.5 & 5.61 Hello Listers; We had an attribute that calculated BMI successfully in 5.4.3 for years. Two weeks ago we converted to 5.61 (double upgrade) and now the calculation fails. I saw the note below asking about a 5.5 calculation so am wondering if something changed with that release? Does anyone have insight or a fix??? We'd appreciate your help! Jean Mathia, RN Manager, IS Clinical Applications Affinity Health System 222 W. College Ave. Appleton, Wi 54911 920-628-9426 "It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." John Wooden -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barbara Kirtland Pena Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 7:41 AM To: '[email protected]' Subject: [MEDITECH-L] BMI Good day Would someone be so kind as to share with me an attribute for calculating BMI that will work in 5.5 Magic. You will be much appreciated. Barbara Kirtland Peña Systems Information Specialist =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= To subscribe or unsubscribe to the meditech-l, visit MTUsers.NET. To check the status of the meditech-l, visit MTUsers.NET. For help, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the MTUsers WikiPedia at MTUsers.NET/mwiki ______________________________________ meditech-l mailing list [email protected] http://mtusers.com/mailman/listinfo/meditech-l ***** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE ***** This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. 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