That is the only way to do it. There are some combination drugs that will come 
over with no strength - such as Cozaar. Others might come over with only
the part of the strength that varies - so if you have a drug with 
hydrochlorothiazide-atenolol and the HCTZ is always 25 mg but the atenolol part 
is 25, 50,
100 mg
the three strengths might come across as 25-, 50- and 100 -,  Tylenol and 
codeine #3 might come across as 30 mg. You will never get 30mg/325mg
and your 1/2 tablets will never neatly say 15 mg/167.5 mg. I've complained 
about this for years but its never been fixed.
In the RXM you can put two strengths for two ingredients such as that because 
the dispense entity of "tab" is a separate field - but you still cannot get
1/2
tab to say 15 mg/167.5 mg.
You will have to edit these drugs incorporate the strength or a common term 
(such as #3) into the Trade name and into the Drug ID.

Also, your ointments, cream, etc. will always come across with a % in the 
strength field - depending on how your billing is set up, you may have to change
all of these to bill by the gram or by the 15 gm tube or whatever - Someone 
will have to check this out - we don't have B\AR - we have anther billing system
and we were doing a lot of Medical outpatient dispensing and most of our drugs 
like that had to be set up by the gram because that was the way they were
paid.
The strength was then incorporated into the trade name and into the drug ID.

What you should avoid editing is the generic mnemonic and if possible - the 
generic name.
I hope that helps - even though it is probably not the simplest solution. Cindy




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We are MAGIC 5.6 PP4 with FirstDataBank.  If I understand your question 
correctly, you might be talking about Hyzaar 100/25 which FDB would strength as 
each
for dose checking, etc.  In these situations I edit the drug ID and that shows 
everywhere that I have found.  It seems to work well for us.  It is a 1 time
fix since we turned off overwrite in the FSV update process.  A lot of sites 
would/have edit(ed) the generic to include the strength but I’m always afraid
to customize such an important thing from the FSV.

HTH.

Jeff Thompson, RPH
Newman Regional Health
Emporia, Kansas  66801


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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 9:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MEDITECH-L] No Strength on some FDB Drugs!

Hello, L: How are you PHA/FDB users dealing with the following problem:

Meditech builds their drug ID field from the generic name, strength, and 
dispense form fields. But there are many drugs coming from FDB that do NOT
consistently have the strength field on them. Or, the strength field is 
imbedded in the trade name field, rather than being in the strength field. This
leads to a problem, since the drug lookup at order time does not have 
sufficient info for the person ordering to distinguish which is the correct 
drug per
the doctor's order.

We could investigate these by NDC number and eventually repair, but our 
pharmacy director is very uncomfortable with editing the drug ID fields, and 
would
prefer that be done from the formulary source.

What are you all doing about this? Do you just bite the bullet, do the research 
by NDC, and correct the drug ID fields manually with the strength?? My
pharmacist says his license is on the line, he doesn't want to do this manually!

Does this problem also occur with MediSpan?

Thanks!

Gary Hall
Clinical Applications Analyst
Estes Park Medical Center
Information Systems Department
970-577-4443





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