Grigory,

I feel your pain.  

There are some disconnects between what is being developed and
what is being expected. A good place to start reading up on this
is a thread  I started back in March "Supported Hardware", see
here:  http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00297.html
(some who have followed this list will remember me bring that 
thread up not so long a go).

Futher investigation reveals that the IVI team has a very specific and
limited view of what constitutes an IVI system, which is aimed more
at commerical entities than the casual potential user.  This statement
isn't meant as a knock on anyone, it's more of an observation.  Most of that 
hardware isn't readyly available for hobbiest, which is a small set as it is, 
limiting thier involvement.  

The problem is that mixed signals were sent out about this at the begining of 
the Meego project.  So the statement from Bug 17351 
(directly related to this thread, read it), "Since we are discussing 
hardware that this was never intended for, I am marking Resolved invalid." 
does kinda of get under my skin (1st and only thing I will say on that 
comment).


I think the idea of seperating the IVI from the UX is/would help clarify
this for anyone looking to jump in (where the none UX would be the *official*
item releases).  As the direction this effort has gotten clearer, Joel has
been doing a better job of communicating all of this.

Nasa

BTW: The integration of the new drivers isn't the first instance of this 
disconnect -- the touchscreen issue (bug 12777 I believe) is a result of
the same thinking.  As is the inclusions of a specific rotary dial...


----- Original Message -----
> Alison
> 
> I have to say that 1.2 release has already dropped all of us who use
> ExoPC and other non new EMGD compatible things.
> As I can see 1.1 had sw " rasterizer" as default and thus
> - anyone was able to install it on various HW
> - and add preferable driver later
> 
> I have no idea why this way was broken in 1.2 release, but it drops
> out a lot of people. They tried "new" release and it just doesn't work
> for them - so they simple walk away to do something for Android or
> iOS.
> I remember list member NASA has provided some "workaround" and it was
> quite popular topic ). But not all of us can/want to spend time to try
> dancing around to "fix" drivers issue.
> 
> I would like to extend your proposal to keep it general and end user
> will decide which HW specific driver to install. And yes - proper
> naming will be definitely helpful here.
> 
> Grigory.
> 
> --
> Grigory Abuladze
> Application Solutions (Electronics and Vision) Limited.
> Tel: +44 (0) 1273 409147
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alison Chaiken [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 16 August 2011 16:55
> To: Clark, Joel
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [MeeGo-ivi] do you know when MeeGo 1.2.0.2 will be
> availablefor ivi
> 
> Joel, what I'm really thinking about is the many Lenovo Ideapads and
> ExoPCs that Intel has generously given to developers: thank you! I
> would hope that as the repos are refreshed, that AppUp participants
> whose expertise is in QML rather than Linux graphics are not going to
> get their machines borked if up they "zypper update" from trunk.
> 
> I suggest that someone (Bob Spencer, Amar Kona . . . ) make it
> clear what the best update path for developers using this older
> hardware is. Otherwise when 1.3 drops, a lot of folks using older
> HW may be unhappy. It's already a bit confusing about which graphics
> RPMs to use with which Atom processors. Perhaps the EMGD RPMs could
> have "sandybridge" or whatever in the package name.
> 
> --
> Alison Chaiken
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