to, 2011-01-13 kello 07:34 -0800, ext Arjan van de Ven kirjoitti:
> On 1/13/2011 5:46 AM, Tapio Rantala wrote:
> > Package sysvinit will not include actual sysvinit daemon anymore. Init
> > scripts within fastinit will no longer be functional with original
> > sysvinit as they are modified for upstart.
> 
> I don't like that at all...
> why would upstart package just not provide a complete replacement??????

There are several packages which require fastinit directly (xinetd, kbd,
foomatic, openssh) and others that depend on init for
processing /etc/init.d/ (corewatcher, dbus, dsme, firstboot, fuse,
iptables, moblin-live, ntp, ntpdate, ohm, openssh-server, sensorfw,
sreadahead, sysklogd, timed, trousers, udev, xinetd), which use things
like /etc/init.d/functions that are part of
fastinit. /etc/init.d/functions then uses stuff from sysvinit-tools.

I do not believe for a second that all of these could be fixed to
upstart-style before feature freeze or even that it would be a sane
thing to do. I say let them use sysvinit-style init functions and
fastinit function libraries, upstart can handle them too.

> this upstart migration is starting to sound like a bigger and bigger 
> deal that is visible to applications etc...
> ... not a good idea since upstart is only for one release.

It's visibility to applications is much lower if there isn't a need to
get rid of everything that is fastinit/sysvinit.


-- 
Tapio Rantala

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