I promised to create summary on the topics discussed today in MeeGo QA Meeting under the topic of Takeaways from Dublin
What I did is that I grouped the discussion under the topics and added some "How to go forward" Proposals. Architecture and QA Co-Operation >From the logs: 07:13:05 <Toropainen> One item is that architect does not know about QA activities in detailed level. 07:13:55 <V-PV> Toropainen: Yes, I agree with this. Any proposals how to make the situation better? 07:14:08 <vilvo> also n900 hw adaptation team (Marko Saukko) initiated discussion to create core OS images, already on Friday 07:15:08 <Toropainen> QA awarness and different activities in QA should be brought to architects attentions. One possible way to do this is to arrange some sort of roadshow targetted to architects, sales slides (brief descriptions about different QA activities) 07:15:45 <May> Good ideas. Tommi. 07:15:54 <Mukesh> how about them becomming a part of these meetings 07:16:08 <tahvo> maybe test plan walk-through with program people - including architects? 07:16:50 <V-PV> These all sound good things to be done from my perspective. 07:17:01 <V-PV> Do architects have weekly IRC meetings? 07:17:14 <May> We used to review test plan with PM and engineering managers, but architects are seldom involved in those meetings. 07:17:21 <Toropainen> I dont know Mukesh, Basically good idea but these meetings are more or less practicalities and very specific items. Dont know if architects are interested on these and our message is not heard most probably. 07:17:34 <nitingarg> test plan walk thru with architects is a good idea 07:18:05 <Toropainen> I agree with nitingarg. 07:18:32 <V-PV> #idea Test Plans should be walked through with architects in future as a addition to PMs 07:18:57 <V-PV> I think atleast that we could start doing How to go forward: - Let's talk with Architects how they should be involved in Test Plan reviews and hear their ideas - It would be great Vilvo and others from Core QA Team to continue discussion with N900 adaptation team to get testable Core Image done. This learning could be then utilized in other HWs as well (assumption) - IDEA: Should we actually have open "walkthough" sessions for test plans arranged? Tools Further Development >From the logs: 07:13:12 <vilvo> yes, lots of work to do. at least on tools area. 07:14:13 <May> Yes. A big gap about test case management tool. 07:14:33 <V-PV> vilvo: We definetly run out of time during the un-conference sesions in this area. 07:14:59 <tahvo> Unconference item for test management raised small debate and good discussion - and due to that we run out of time like vilvo said. How to go forward: - May could publish the slide n:o 2 from your test management slides that you showed in Dublin so that we could start the discussion about tools landscape based on that. - The rest of tool issues were pretty "business as usual" and I think we can proceed on those in bugs.meego.com / mails / IRC Test Automation tools needs to be available for Community (== Public OTS) >From the logs: 07:20:03 <Mukesh> MeeGo UX auotmation and tools should be made availabe to community as soon as we can.. 07:20:11 <Mukesh> the scripts are alerday there in public OBS 07:20:22 <Mukesh> we need th epublic OTS part up and running 07:20:23 <vilvo> Mukesh: would you please be a bit more specific on that? 07:21:12 <Mukesh> vilvo: we have publsihed the scripts in the public GIT and the RPM's to public OBS.. 07:21:34 <Dimpy__> We published the rpms at http://download.meego.com/live/home:/dadhikar/Trunk_Testing 07:21:49 <Dimpy__> both for 1.1 and 1.2 releases. How to go forward: - I think that definetly public OTS would be great service to be offered. Including support for QEMU testing and real HW testing, so that you can make your own build and run the tests you want. - Let's agree on intent first, if you see it another way that I just wrote, please comment. - For continuation, I see this something that I can not contribute, vilvo? Did I missed some items? V-PV --- Veli-Pekka Vatula MeeGo QA Lead
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