Hi Yanshuang, Ok. Usually that kind of information is shared also in triage. But I see your point there. Next question is how and when the in-depth triage is done?
Br, Iekku From: ext Zheng, Yanshuang [mailto:yanshuang.zh...@intel.com] Sent: 29 March, 2011 12:13 To: Huttunen Iekku (EXT-Ixonos/Tampere); jerry...@linux.intel.com; meego-qa@lists.meego.com Subject: RE: [Meego-qa] "need-triage" keyword in Bugzilla Hi Iekku, The major difference between triage and in-depth triage is: bug triage roughly checks the component and assignee during bug triage. Often the assignee does not have more input in bug especially when the issue is a system overall one or touching multiple components, thus many bugs are left there lonely. In-depth triage focuses on bug isolation/initial root cause and then push bug fixing, probably solution could be provided. Take BMC#11234 as example, we know it is an issue about touch screen, but still not isolated to touch driver, touch configuration, X, or other middleware maybe. We hope that after in-depth triage, we could know that fixes should be made in which pkg(s) and even who/how to fix. Best Regards, Yanshuang From: meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of ext-iekku.huttu...@nokia.com Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 2:42 PM To: jerry...@linux.intel.com; meego-qa@lists.meego.com Subject: Re: [Meego-qa] "need-triage" keyword in Bugzilla Hi, ARM isn't enough, N900 is used when bug is reproduced with N900, the platform can be also ALL or empty. That's how we can track bugs and see easily if the other platform than ARM bugs are really reproduced with N900. I think the EasyFix is used when the fix is so quick and easy, that any of the community member can assign the bug and make the fix. As the description says. What comes to triages, I hope that people are also active with bugs needing triage. But the description for the keyword needs to be clearer. I'm not sure what is the difference between triage and in-depth triage. Also wondering, like Andre does, where this has been discussed, haven't seen any conversation about this in public meetings. Br, Iekku From: meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Jerry Yu Sent: 29 March, 2011 09:29 To: meego-qa@lists.meego.com Subject: Re: [Meego-qa] "need-triage" keyword in Bugzilla Andre I think the keyword description tells the purpose for that already. We just want to keep the keyword as simple as we can. I prefer "triaged" than "in-depth-triaged" For your second question, I think the triage meeting could be the right place to discuss those thing moving forward. We could have a wiki page to state that purpose of specific keyword if the keyword description is not enough. For example, I don't quite understand why we need these keywords 1. EasyFix: EasyFix Bugs that can easily be fixed by MeeGo community members/contributors. ?: what's this for. 2. N900: N900 related bug, added when bug is found or reproduced with N900. Can be removed if bug not reproducible with N900. ?: this could be easily queried out though field"platform arch: ARM"? thanks Jerry On 3/29/2011 2:10 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: Hi & Thanks for answering. On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 13:56 +0800, Jerry Yu wrote: We observed some bugs which need in-depth triage before we can assign to appropriate component for timely fixing. I added these two keywords yesterday to serve the purpose: 1. tag the bug which needs in-depth triage. It's different with what triage team is doing currently. We need technical expertise to do more analysis and bug isolation work for those bugs. 2. tag the bug "triaged" when someone managed to isolate the issue to component/package level. IMO that's both not reflected by the keyword descriptions, as the meaning of "triaged" seems to differ a lot from the meaning of "in-depth triaged". We encourage all meego community users to tackle on those challenge bugs analysis. Can you elaborate how you encourage them exactly? That's the basic idea for these two keywords. Also it looks like you missed my second question, so I'm quoting it: Where was this discussed / announced? Thanks, andre
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