Hi Sivan,

It would be nice if you could also join following:


-          
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/bof-improving-meego-error-management-process-and-practices
  (Schedule: 25 May 09:50 - 10:30 )

-          http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/bof-meego-qa (Schedule: 25 
May 09:00 - 09:40)

-          
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/bof-meego-bugzilla-structure-enhancement-facilitate-bug-reporting-and-bugs-disposit
 (Schedule: 25 May 10:50 - 11:30)

Br,
Iekku

From: meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com 
[mailto:meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of ext Sivan Greenberg
Sent: 17 May, 2011 16:25
To: Andre Klapper
Cc: meego...@meego.com
Subject: Re: [Meego-qa] QA related issues to discuss at MeeGo conference

I will make sure to attend the BOF, my feedback has been given here numerous 
times and I would like to try and represent some of the faults in quality in 
the compliance spec,  as I wish to discuss at 
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/bof-quality-and-compliance-specification

Thanks for the list! I know some of the topic you mentioned burning, I hope we 
can make progress through th F2F meeting and propagate to PM office rather than 
just remain with our understanding that things need change like in Dublin, 
where nothing really has.

-Sivan

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Andre Klapper 
<aklap...@openismus.com<mailto:aklap...@openismus.com>> wrote:
Dropping my list of issues that I'd like to push, mention or discuss at
the MeeGo conference next week, so you can prepare yourself or make up
your mind. No particular order in that list.

Please share your thoughts and other issues that you see not working out
well in MeeGo QA so this can be discussed in the open instead of behind
closed doors or private emails which harms the project.
It's just one click on the "Reply" button in your email client and
writing some text. ;-)


     * Pushing developers to enhance stock answers at
       http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Bugtriage_Stock_Answers -
       everybody welcome to edit but either nobody knows about it or
       does not see the advantages of sharing knowledge?
     * Push managers/developers that set restrictions on access to a
       bug report to always explain the motivation in a comment - this
       is not happening currently and questions for reasoning remain
       unanswered -
       http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Bug_Access_Restrictions
     * Is all the medium/high triaging realistic? I don't think so -
       http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-qa/2011-January/000820.html
     * Bugzilla structure reorganization - Wanted or not by developers?
       -
       http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-qa/2011-January/000931.html
     * Is 3rd party MeeGo Apps bugtracker hosting in 
bugs.meego.com<http://bugs.meego.com>
       wanted? - https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12589#c10
     * How welcoming is the triaging and QA/testing process to
       volunteers outside of stakeholder companies, and how to improve?
       Partially
       http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-qa/2011-March/001201.html
     * Partially chaotic usage of prefixes in bug summaries - see
       http://wiki.meego.com/User:Andre/Bug_Summary_Prefixes for a
       quick list. Does this need more structure or keywords instead?
     * Evergrowing addition of fields to show_bug.cgi in Bugzilla
       without any public discussion of its usefulness - e.g.
       http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-qa/2011-May/001580.html
     * Intransparent decision making on MeeGo_Release_Blocker requests
       - who in PM has those powers and how to get them? See thread at
       http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-pm/2011-May/000071.html
     * Upstreaming of bug reports in components that are basically
       unchanged in MeeGo - looks like everybody tries to avoid that
       work and hopes that somebody else will upstream it instead?
       Documentation at
       http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/UpstreamBugTrackers


andre
--
Andre Klapper (maemo.org<http://maemo.org> bugmaster)
http://www.openismus.com

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