> -----Original Message-----
> From: meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com 
> [mailto:meego-qa-boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of Andre Klapper
> Sent: 15 June 2011 16:51
> To: meego-qa@lists.meego.com
> Subject: Re: [Meego-qa] MeeGo Core Bug Summary - 20110613
> 
> Summary of this post:
> Keep in mind there's also bug reporters that are normal users.

Good point Andre, thanks for the timely reminder.

> Long version:
> 
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 07:41 +0300, qingqing...@elektrobit.com wrote:
> > Pls. help to spread the message to bug reporters and remind 
> her/him if 
> > you notice there is any "RELEASED/FIXED" bug reported by 
> the guy your 
> > known.
> 
> Please do this nicely.
> While currently most bug reporters are engineers, bug 
> reporters can also be average users with products that run 
> stable MeeGo versions.
> You wouldn't expect them to download an unstable testing 
> release, find out how to install it on their device, and 
> completely screw up their system just to verify one ticket 
> they once upon a time filed in order to help the MeeGo 
> platform become better.
> 
> Yes, I still see too many rather unfriendly and direct 
> "Reporter: Pls verify" comments instead of "If you have time, 
> if you know how to install recent versions, and if you are 
> aware of the risks of running unstable version" style comments.
> 
> > It is ridiculous that all those bugs are leaving for QA contact to 
> > verify or finally most of them are marked as "verification 
> pending". 
> > :)
> 
> Maybe  ridiculous for people that are paid to work on MeeGo, 
> but not for average users.
> Average users already did spend a significant amount of their 
> free time to write up the report, submit it, and answer 
> followup questions.
> They could have also NOT done it.
> Verifying by downloading a new version and installing it is 
> even several magnitudes more complicated than fiddling with Bugzilla.
> 
> andre
> --
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> http://www.openismus.com
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